Home » StarWars Forums » Beyond The Movies » The Expanded Universe


Thread: Holocron continuity database questions



Permlink Replies: 2,982 - Pages: 150 [ Previous | 1 ... 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 ... 150 | Next ] - Last Post: Apr 25, 2011 1:41 PM Last Post By: Leland Y Chee
grobiano


Posts: 34
Registered: 08/19/06
Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Jun 9, 2007 11:28 AM   in response to: Leland Y Chee in response to: Leland Y Chee
    Click to report abuse...   Click to reply to this post Reply
Now what?s this? Niman (not to be confused with Form VI) teaches the use of two lightsabers simultaneously, according to Hero?s Guide Web Enhancement (what?s the canon level of that source, anyway?). Other sources states that the correct name for this art should be Jar?Kai, and some says Niman/Jar?Kai. Are there two different styles or just one with two names?
Darth Bane: Path of Destruction states that the use of two lightsabers is a distinct variant of the fourth form, a comment that likely derives from the footnote that Anakin ?engage[s] Dooku with the two lightsaber variant of Form IV? in the Insider article Fightsaber. A misconception? Or do Form IV has an own two-saber ?subform??
Thank you for your time
darthdevaster

Posts: 11
Registered: 10/03/06
Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Jun 9, 2007 9:23 AM   in response to: JamesGilmer in response to: JamesGilmer
    Click to report abuse...   Click to reply to this post Reply
We know Darth Bane gave to Darth Zannah a double-bladed lightsaber. Is this weapon the same Kas'im had given to him ?
JamesGilmer


Posts: 577
Registered: 09/16/04
Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Jun 8, 2007 5:24 PM   in response to: Grand Admiral S... in response to: Grand Admiral S...
    Click to report abuse...   Click to reply to this post Reply
Giolon, I'm curious to know where you found the information about Hesperidium forming the Bridge; that statement is currently the source of a minor citation debate on Wookieepedia.

I think the source is that the statement is that the Vong simply took the "largest" of Corsucant's moons and trashed it to make the Bridge and some people assumed that Hesperidium was 1) a moon of Corsucant, and 2) Corsucant's largest moon.

The suggestion seems to be coming more from people looking for axes to grind than actual facts, as no one has stepped forward to offer citation, just recieved wisdom that the moon was destroyed.
Sompeetalay


Posts: 1,439
Registered: 12/16/99
Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Jun 8, 2007 3:41 PM   in response to: Grand Admiral S... in response to: Grand Admiral S...
    Click to report abuse...   Click to reply to this post Reply
I'll be dealing with the advisors in the Q&A of a future issue of Insider.
< Looking forward to that :)
Grand Admiral S...


Posts: 5,233
Registered: 01/08/05
Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Jun 8, 2007 2:51 PM   in response to: Leland Y Chee in response to: Leland Y Chee
    Click to report abuse...   Click to reply to this post Reply
*For the longest time we've used dozens of pointy-eared characters without a species name for them. *
:^O It's true! Just call 'em Elves, right? ;)

My theory is that all pointy-eared species are either Sephi or closely related to Sephi.
Fascinating -- just as the human clade has greatly diversified across the Galaxy.

Not concretely.
Oo, good to know. Wookieepedia has them labeled "Equine" but that's probably just a literalistic interpretation of Kiel Charney's comment about Farfalla's "equine blood".

My understanding has always been that Hesperidium is a moon in the Coruscant system,
That's my understanding, as well -- although I'd have to pull out P.o.T. to be sure. Giolon, I'm curious to know where you found the information about Hesperidium forming the Bridge; that statement is currently the source of a minor citation debate on Wookieepedia.
jSarek


Posts: 2,267
Registered: 12/17/03
Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Jun 8, 2007 2:46 PM   in response to: DarthMRN in response to: DarthMRN
    Click to report abuse...   Click to reply to this post Reply
However, this comment seems to indicate that the Force abilties displayed virtually anywhere besides the movies could potentially be chalked up to the needs of the medium in question, rather than being outright canon...

Thus we come to realize that canon itself is, and always has been, a much more mutable and interpretable thing than we tend to think.
DarthMRN


Posts: 2,355
Registered: 11/14/04
Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Jun 8, 2007 2:37 PM   in response to: Leland Y Chee in response to: Leland Y Chee
    Click to report abuse...   Click to reply to this post Reply
The Force is definitely amped up to enhance gameplay. Star Wars in its various forms is always going to be taylored to specific mediums, whether it be for gameplay, artistic, or technical reasons. What we see in the films are the true representation of Force abilities.
I'll take that as a yes. Thanks a bunch.

However, this comment seems to indicate that the Force abilties displayed virtually anywhere besides the movies could potentially be chalked up to the needs of the medium in question, rather than being outright canon...
Leland Y Chee


Posts: 1,450
Registered: 05/05/00
Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Jun 8, 2007 6:48 AM   in response to: Leland Y Chee in response to: Leland Y Chee
    Click to report abuse...   Click to reply to this post Reply
Tasty, have you given any thought to the canon level of the sheer Force power Darth Vader's Apprentice displays in the upcoming Force Unleashed game?
The Force is definitely amped up to enhance gameplay. Star Wars in its various forms is always going to be taylored to specific mediums, whether it be for gameplay, artistic, or technical reasons. What we see in the films are the true representation of Force abilities.

Do you have a species for Valentha Farfalla in the Holocron?
Not concretely. For the longest time we've used dozens of pointy-eared characters without a species name for them. The pointed-eared species in the Jedi: Yoda comic were named Sephi. My theory is that all pointy-eared species are either Sephi or closely related to Sephi.

Are there any names in the Holocron for the two unnamed Imperial Advisors in 'RotJ'?
I'll be dealing with the advisors in the Q&A of a future issue of Insider.

In the latest LotF novel, Sacrifice, Mara travels to the moon of Coruscant, Hesperidium. This moon was destroyed in the NJO to make the "Rainbow Bridge" of Yuuzhan'tar. What's going on here? Should we all book trips to scenic Alderaan?
My understanding has always been that Hesperidium is a moon in the Coruscant system, but not of the planet Coruscant itself. I don't believe we've ever determined which planet.
Tramp the wande...

Posts: 2,458
Registered: 06/30/04
Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Jun 8, 2007 12:42 AM   in response to: Kiro in response to: Kiro
    Click to report abuse...   Click to reply to this post Reply
There is also another "equine" species in the SW universe called Nazzar from the planet Nazzri. A Nazzar Jedi by the name of Qrrl Toq appears in the Old Republic era Tales of the Jedi comics.
Kiro

Posts: 143
Registered: 08/06/00
Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Jun 8, 2007 12:27 AM   in response to: Darth NTM in response to: Darth NTM
    Click to report abuse...   Click to reply to this post Reply
+Do you have a species for Valenthyne Farfalla in the
Holocron? +

As identified in Jedi vs. Sith, his species is
named "Equine"


I'm the one who asked the q above (and made the spelling mistake :p). I'm aware of the sentence in Jedi vs. Sith where the Equine idea comes from, but I don't think it must necessarily be the name of his species. That is why I was hoping Tasty would reply with what species the Holocron has, if any.

The quote is "It's that equine blood of his". While that could be his species, it could also just be an adjective, such as could also be used to describe a Thakwaash or other "equine" species. This is the context from which I ask the question.

~Kiro
Tramp the wande...

Posts: 2,458
Registered: 06/30/04
Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Jun 7, 2007 8:07 PM   in response to: Giolon in response to: Giolon
    Click to report abuse...   Click to reply to this post Reply
+ In the latest LotF novel, Sacrifice, Mara travels to the moon of Coruscant, Hesperidium. This moon was destroyed in the NJO to make the "Rainbow Bridge" of Yuuzhan'tar. What's going on here? Should we all book trips to scenic Alderaan?+

Coruscant has more than one moon. If memory serves, It originally had four moons, one of which was destroyed by the Yuuzhan Vong to create the "Rainbow Bridge".
Darth NTM


Posts: 1,042
Registered: 07/18/00
Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Jun 7, 2007 4:45 AM   in response to: Jaymach Ral'Tir in response to: Jaymach Ral'Tir
    Click to report abuse...   Click to reply to this post Reply
+Do you have a species for Valentha Farfalla in the Holocron? +

As identified in Jedi vs. Sith, his species is named "Equine"
purpilianjedi


Posts: 22
Registered: 06/23/05
Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Jun 6, 2007 8:05 PM   in response to: Leland Y Chee in response to: Leland Y Chee
    Click to report abuse...   Click to reply to this post Reply
In the Prequals, the Jedi Council Chamber appears to have another circular antechamber like room outside plus an elevator. This seems to be structurally impossible from all the images I've seen. Is this just a mishap with the design of a circular room?
Giolon

Posts: 9
Registered: 02/21/06
Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Jun 6, 2007 2:51 PM   in response to: Leland Y Chee in response to: Leland Y Chee
    Click to report abuse...   Click to reply to this post Reply
In the latest LotF novel, Sacrifice, Mara travels to the moon of Coruscant, Hesperidium. This moon was destroyed in the NJO to make the "Rainbow Bridge" of Yuuzhan'tar. What's going on here? Should we all book trips to scenic Alderaan?
Sompeetalay


Posts: 1,439
Registered: 12/16/99
Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Jun 6, 2007 1:26 PM   in response to: Jaymach Ral'Tir in response to: Jaymach Ral'Tir
    Click to report abuse...   Click to reply to this post Reply
Are there any names in the Holocron for the two unnamed Imperial Advisors in 'RotJ'?
Jaymach Ral'Tir


Posts: 13
Registered: 05/04/04
Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Jun 6, 2007 5:43 AM   in response to: DarthMRN in response to: DarthMRN
    Click to report abuse...   Click to reply to this post Reply
Do you have a species for Valentha Farfalla in the Holocron?
DarthMRN


Posts: 2,355
Registered: 11/14/04
Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Jun 5, 2007 5:28 PM   in response to: grobiano in response to: grobiano
    Click to report abuse...   Click to reply to this post Reply
Tasty, have you given any thought to the canon level of the sheer Force power Darth Vader's Apprentice displays in the upcoming Force Unleashed game? From the pre-viz, concept art, webdoc and production diaries, it seems clear that they want to give the Apprentice above and beyond levels of Force power, to rival or exceed that displayed even by Yoda and Sidious in other media.

With the Apprentice presumably not being of such enormous Force mastery, do you have an opinion of whether the levels of power displayed by the Apprentice will be explained as exaggeration for the purposes of articstic license? Much like the level of Jedi power in the Clone Wars Miniseries was?
grobiano


Posts: 34
Registered: 08/19/06
Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Jun 5, 2007 6:57 AM   in response to: Leland Y Chee in response to: Leland Y Chee
    Click to report abuse...   Click to reply to this post Reply
"We expect Jedi vs. Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force to clarify and consolidate the info on lightsaber forms a bit."

Looks like I have to wait, then... Thank you very much!
jSarek


Posts: 2,267
Registered: 12/17/03
Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Jun 5, 2007 2:09 AM   in response to: Leland Y Chee in response to: Leland Y Chee
    Click to report abuse...   Click to reply to this post Reply
Tasty:

I'd love to here anyone's thoughts on seeing the Holocron, good or bad.

Well, I think you already know my opinion. ;-)

It was really neat to get to see it. I know one of your goals was to demystify the Holocron a bit, and for those who expected more than a plain old FileMaker Pro database, I'm sure you succeeded.

But I don't think the mystery has ever been about the format, or even the content, so much as the connections. To use an overdramatic analogy, the power of religious relics come from their history and users, not inherent greatness. And here, we were getting to see THE program Lucasfilm uses to keep track of Star Wars. The one that authors use to find obscure content to tie their works into the larger SW tapestry. The one that eager fans have been getting answers from, through the helpfulness of its Keeper, for years now, without ever getting to see it ourselves. Until now.

That's special. Even if it IS just a plain old FileMaker Pro database.
Leland Y Chee


Posts: 1,450
Registered: 05/05/00
Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Jun 4, 2007 3:28 PM   in response to: Leland Y Chee in response to: Leland Y Chee
    Click to report abuse...   Click to reply to this post Reply
Does the Holocron say anything about individual names for the Twin Suns, the two Twi'lek bounty hunters?
One is Seer'aa and the other is Teer'aa, though I'm not certain which is which.

was Sate Pestage among the Imperial Advisors in the movie?
No.

Juyo vs vaapad/Shien or Djem So
Vaapad is a Form VII variant. We expect Jedi vs. Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force to clarify and consolidate the info on lightsaber forms a bit.

confusion over film-only continuity and film+EU continuity, i.e. why the distinction?
All I have to say about continuity is in this blog:

Point your RSS reader here for a feed of the latest messages in all forums