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Leland Y Chee


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Re: Welcome some BCaT VIPs
Posted: Dec 18, 2004 11:41 PM   in response to: Ghent in response to: Ghent
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how are we supposed to read retconns like the revised length of the Ex - as absolute truths and matters of dogma; or as "best guess" conclusions based on the interpretation of evidence?

I'm not sure I understand the question. There's a size field for the Executor entry in the Holocron. That field now say s ~19 km long. It used to say 12 km and before that 8 km. In the Continuity Notes field of the Holocron, it lists some (though not all) sources where the different lengths were stated. There are some notes as to the entire discussion. The next time someone wishes to print a length for the ship, we look at the size field and say, the size is ~19 km long. Could this change yet again? It's unlikely, though never impossible.

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Taking a cue from the films, things in the EU can always change.
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Re: Welcome some BCaT VIPs
Posted: Dec 18, 2004 11:27 PM   in response to: Ghent in response to: Ghent
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*Jason Fry -- Jason Fry, Star Wars author and Insider contributor.
Unknown, I know he's never posted frequently to begin with.*

Actually, Jason chimes in from time to time in the Galaxy's Map thread.
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Re: Welcome some BCaT VIPs
Posted: Dec 18, 2004 7:46 PM   in response to: James T. Skywal... in response to: James T. Skywal...
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Here are the exact dates and times of their last
posts here:

WalterJon -- last post, Oct 22, 2004, 3:06 PM
SithScribe -- last post, Oct 15, 2002, 2:23 PM
Jason Fry -- last post, Dec 02, 2004, 1:51 PM
Darth Poodle -- last post, May 15, 2003, 7:24 PM

~JTS


I don't recall the new sn off the top of my head but Darth Poodle had to retire his purple sn when he moved on and has posted on occasion more recently under his new sn - it might even have just been his own name.

Google is truly amazing. ;)

And re WalterJon - he tends to post in the

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Re: Welcome some BCaT VIPs
Posted: Dec 18, 2004 12:58 PM   in response to: DarthMaul431 in response to: DarthMaul431
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Tasty Taste: out of interest, how are we supposed to read retconns like the revised length of the Ex - as absolute truths and matters of dogma; or as "best guess" conclusions based on the interpretation of evidence?

Personally, I'm happy with an eleven-mile Ex, but I have friends who have a certain nostalgia for the old WEG "five-mile" design, and I've been arguing the wider issue with Talas or people like him in another place these past few days...

And on top of that, I'm a postgrad historian in rl - these sorts of thought processes are part of what I'm interested in professionally...

Thanks,
pol'
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Re: Welcome some BCaT VIPs
Posted: Dec 18, 2004 11:16 AM   in response to: James T. Skywal... in response to: James T. Skywal...
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Why do the Clone Wars timelines on the inside covers name the source of the event "Attack on Azure" as being from Jedi Quest: Special Edition when we already know that it's called Secrets of the Jedi. Though I highly doubt it, is this actually a second book coming out in March of '05?
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Re: Welcome some BCaT VIPs
Posted: Dec 18, 2004 10:07 AM   in response to: Ghent in response to: Ghent
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Here are the exact dates and times of their last posts here:

WalterJon -- last post, Oct 22, 2004, 3:06 PM
SithScribe -- last post, Oct 15, 2002, 2:23 PM
Jason Fry -- last post, Dec 02, 2004, 1:51 PM
Darth Poodle -- last post, May 15, 2003, 7:24 PM

~JTS
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Re: Welcome some BCaT VIPs
Posted: Dec 18, 2004 9:44 AM   in response to: Rainbow Droideka in response to: Rainbow Droideka
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*He's been around, but not recently.

WalterJon -- Walter Jon Williams, Star Wars author,
Destiny's Way and Ylesia.

He was posting in October, I think.*

I believe he was beginning his next novel about then, and likely has no spare time to frequent the boards as much as he used to until it's completed. But, hopefully we'll see him again after he's done!

B-)
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Re: Welcome some BCaT VIPs
Posted: Dec 18, 2004 3:44 AM   in response to: Darth Talas in response to: Darth Talas
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*Earlier you stated that the Executor's dimensions were corrected in the
"Inside The Worlds of the Star Wars Trilogy" to agree with the size shown in the movies (which are the highest canon). When will the other spinoff literature and the Official
Site Databank show the ITW correction? *

Speaking of Inside the Worlds of the Star Wars Trilogy, why were Jabba's Palace and the Pit of Carkoon moved to the Northern Dune Sea?

And with the slight shift in the Tatooine map, where did Fort Tusken go (I know it's not around anymore - but it used to be on the maps)?
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Re: Welcome some BCaT VIPs
Posted: Dec 18, 2004 1:31 AM   in response to: James T. Skywal... in response to: James T. Skywal...
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JTS

Re: VIPs

Thanks, JTS.
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Re: Welcome some BCaT VIPs
Posted: Dec 17, 2004 10:41 PM   in response to: Darth Talas in response to: Darth Talas
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Anyone know if the following VIPs are still here?

Darth Poodle -- Chris Cerasi, contributor to Star
Wars Tales & Insider


Chris left Lucasfilm for other projects.

Jason Fry -- Jason Fry, Star Wars author and Insider
contributor

Unknown, I know he's never posted frequently to begin with.

SithScribe - Jonathan W. Rinzler, Editor at
LucasBooks

He's been around, but not recently.

WalterJon -- Walter Jon Williams, Star Wars author,
Destiny's Way and Ylesia.

He was posting in October, I think.

~JTS
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Re: Welcome some BCaT VIPs
Posted: Dec 17, 2004 10:39 PM   in response to: Ghent in response to: Ghent
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I've given up on "directing" guys like Talas. He's never gonna listen to me. :p

~JTS
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Re: Welcome some BCaT VIPs
Posted: Dec 17, 2004 9:52 PM   in response to: Darth Talas in response to: Darth Talas
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I'm gone for how long, and not one mention of the star destoryer length issue, but I get back and BAM! And it's not even that these people want a definite size, I'm ok with wanting details, but asking again and again and again... where's our JTS-type to point them to a thread like every time an era question gets asked?

ok, sorry. venting...

Thank you for answering my lead in question.
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Re: Welcome some BCaT VIPs
Posted: Dec 17, 2004 8:52 PM   in response to: Ghent in response to: Ghent
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Anyone know if the following VIPs are still here?

Darth Poodle -- Chris Cerasi, contributor to Star Wars Tales & Insider
Jason Fry -- Jason Fry, Star Wars author and Insider contributor
SithScribe - Jonathan W. Rinzler, Editor at LucasBooks
WalterJon -- Walter Jon Williams, Star Wars author, Destiny's Way and Ylesia.
Darth Talas


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Re: Welcome some BCaT VIPs
Posted: Dec 17, 2004 7:09 PM   in response to: Leland Y Chee in response to: Leland Y Chee
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Tasty Taste

I don't know when/if the databank will be updated; that's up to the Online group. Databank entries usually don't get dynamically updated every time new information comes out.

So I've noticed! :)

As for other spinoff literature, there was something from Spain that I saw that has the updated size - it even included a size chart, but I haven't come across anything else. Moving forward, we use the new length, which is roughly 19 km long.

Very good to hear. The EU is excellent. So long as its subordinate to the movies.

I am not a part of, nor am I aware of any active conspiracy to hold fast to the old lengths.

Understand completely. You've been very honest and consistent. However, the smarmy replies from others toward fans that like consistency with the films and EU have left a bitter taste.
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Re: Welcome some BCaT VIPs
Posted: Dec 17, 2004 6:40 PM   in response to: Ghent in response to: Ghent
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*Executor's dimensions... When will the other spinoff literature and the Official
Site Databank show the ITW correction?*

I don't know when/if the databank will be updated; that's up to the Online group. Databank entries usually don't get dynamically updated every time new information comes out.

As for other spinoff literature, there was something from Spain that I saw that has the updated size - it even included a size chart, but I haven't come across anything else. Moving forward, we use the new length, which is roughly 19 km long.

I am not a part of, nor am I aware of any active conspiracy to hold fast to the old lengths.

  • Tasty Taste (Keeper of the Holocron "Menace")
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Re: Welcome some BCaT VIPs
Posted: Dec 17, 2004 3:21 PM   in response to: Leland Y Chee in response to: Leland Y Chee
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Tasty Taste,

Earlier you stated that the Executor's dimensions were corrected in the
"Inside The Worlds of the Star Wars Trilogy" to agree with the size shown in the movies (which are the highest canon). When will the other spinoff literature and the Official
Site Databank show the ITW correction?
Leland Y Chee


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Re: Welcome some BCaT VIPs
Posted: Dec 17, 2004 2:39 PM   in response to: Ghent in response to: Ghent
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Yep. And throw in the Republic comic series for good measure.
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Re: Welcome some BCaT VIPs
Posted: Dec 17, 2004 1:38 PM   in response to: Ghent in response to: Ghent
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How about the online comic Reversal of Fortune. Thus far, it would seem that also leads directly into Episode III as well...

~JTS
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Re: Welcome some BCaT VIPs
Posted: Dec 17, 2004 12:33 PM   in response to: Ghent in response to: Ghent
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So, out of the lead-ins (LoE, CW Season 3, and Obsession) which would you say ends the closest to RotS?

Labyrinth of Evil and the 2005 Clone Wars mini-series both end at the start of Revenge of the Sith.
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Re: Welcome some BCaT VIPs
Posted: Dec 17, 2004 11:40 AM   in response to: Ghent in response to: Ghent
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I will comply.

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