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Re: Darth Plagueis Novel by James Luceno
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Apr 5, 2011 1:58 AM
in response to: Sue Rostoni
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This book will be ground breaking it should give us information on Plagueis and more impoortantly Palpatine.
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Re: Darth Plagueis Novel by James Luceno
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Apr 3, 2011 11:22 PM
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I don't think I've linked to it in this thread yet, but...
Origins of an Emperor: The Story of Frank Palpatine. No, I didn't write it, but I did enjoy reading it. |
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Re: Darth Plagueis Novel by James Luceno
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Apr 3, 2011 11:14 PM
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I'm hoping LFL has finally given the okay to give Palpatine a first name
... but I don't see why every human character needs a first and last name if not all aliens have them. In some cultures, individuals are given one name, and I don't see why this couldn't be the principle for some human cultures as well.
But I thought his name was Frank?  |
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Re: Darth Plagueis Novel by James Luceno
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Apr 3, 2011 11:02 PM
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I'm hoping LFL has finally given the okay to give Palpatine a first name
Are you disappointed that Chewbacca hasn't been given a first name yet? Or that Yoda hasn't been given a last name? Sorry to poke fun, but I don't see why every human character needs a first and last name if not all aliens have them. In some cultures, individuals are given one name, and I don't see why this couldn't be the principle for some human cultures as well.
Bane - he founded the Rule because of the in-fighting he'd witnessed among the Sith but 'Dynasty of Evil' shows that he's not above trying to subvert it if it means that his control of the Sith remains in place
I was super happy to read that in Dynasty of Evil. It makes sense that true Sith would chafe under any rules, even if we're talking about the guy who made up those rules in the first place.
Call me old school, but I think I would have preferred The Tragedy of Darth Plagueis
Well, Star Wars: Darth Plagueis is just the working title. Maybe it'll change.
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Re: Darth Plagueis Novel by James Luceno
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Apr 1, 2011 6:17 PM
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My favorite is Lando Calrissian and the Mindharp of Sharu.
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Re: Darth Plagueis Novel by James Luceno
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Apr 1, 2011 5:07 PM
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Almost typed that, but thought that might be too many words, even for an old-school Star Wars title. 
Really? Old school SW includes titles like Lando Calrissian and the Starcave of Thonboka, Ulic Qel-Droma and the Beast Wars of Onderon, and Whatever Happened to Jabba the Hut? Adding "the Wise" seems to fit right in to me. |
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Re: Darth Plagueis Novel by James Luceno
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Mar 31, 2011 5:32 PM
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but I think I would have preferred The Tragedy of Darth Plagueis
Same but add "The Wise" to the end of that. |
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Re: Darth Plagueis Novel by James Luceno
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Mar 31, 2011 2:32 PM
in response to: Master Optician
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Manuscript Excerpt
Also confirmed: Standalone, and working title Star Wars: Darth Plagueis
Call me old school, but I think I would have preferred The Tragedy of Darth Plagueis |
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Re: Darth Plagueis Novel by James Luceno
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Mar 29, 2011 2:48 PM
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I highly doubt they'll cancel this again.
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Re: Darth Plagueis Novel by James Luceno
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Mar 28, 2011 5:58 PM
in response to: ultradroideka
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Wasn't the novel cancelled.
Yep- so Blood Oath- IC2: 501st- I maintain my faith that you two too will one day see publishing light as this one has! |
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Mar 28, 2011 2:02 PM
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Vader, no.
I point you, very politely, to the throne room on the second Death Star.
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Mar 28, 2011 1:34 PM
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(just look how he shrugs off Maul's death and actively encourages those of Dooku and Vader)
Dooku, yes; Vader, no. He actively tried to prevent Vader's death when he sensed danger approaching. Also, he doesn't really just shrug off Maul's death. At the end of TPM he is acting in character as Palpatine. The novel said that he was angry about it.
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Re: Darth Plagueis Novel by James Luceno
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Mar 28, 2011 9:05 AM
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I don't know if we know that much about her to make that call yet. She was kinda eying apprentices before she offed Bane.
True, but remember she wasn't training Set Harth yet just giving him a general overview of the rules governing the Sith now (i.e. the Rule of Two and the eventual death of the Master at the hands of the apprentice) which was similar to what Bane did with Cognus. Zannah also mentions to Harth that when they confront Bane she must face him alone and that Harth is not to get involved. If she succeeds then he becomes her apprentice. If she fails, he becomes Bane's new apprentice thus ensuring that there is always two. I agree that we don't know that much about her (especially now that she has become the Master and has am apprentice) but I think it safe to assume for the moment that she (out of the Sith Lords we see) most closely follows the Rule of Two.
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Re: Darth Plagueis Novel by James Luceno
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Mar 28, 2011 7:21 AM
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Zannah - perhaps the only true adherrant to the Rule that we've seen. Pretty much raised on Bane's teachings, she believes in them fully.
I don't know if we know that much about her to make that call yet. She was kinda eying apprentices before she offed Bane. |
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Re: Darth Plagueis Novel by James Luceno
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Mar 28, 2011 5:12 AM
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Oh Sidious was terrible at following the Rule of Two. He had so many dark siders working for him. I guess he explained it by not calling them apprentices, but it still didn't fit Bane's vision.
It's actually quite interesting to look at how the different Darths view the Rule of Two.
Bane - he founded the Rule because of the in-fighting he'd witnessed among the Sith but 'Dynasty of Evil' shows that he's not above trying to subvert it if it means that his control of the Sith remains in place.
Zannah - perhaps the only true adherrant to the Rule that we've seen. Pretty much raised on Bane's teachings, she believes in them fully.
Sidious - to Palpatine the Rule of Two, like the stipulation of remaining hidden, are merely tools which have allowed him to rise. Once he is in place he has no intention of relinquishing his power (hence his cloning plans) and all of the dark siders under him, be they Sith apprentices or Dark Jedi, are expendable assets (just look how he shrugs off Maul's death and actively encourages those of Dooku and Vader).
Maul - is so subservient to Sidious' will that it would never even occur to him to train an apprentice unless his Master died of sudden heart failure.
Tyranus - despite no longer being a Jedi Master, still sees himself in the role of teacher and gathers quite the little cadre of dark side pupils to instruct. You just need to read the stories involving him and Quinlan Vos to see that Dooku just loves to pass on his 'wisdom'. If anything, he seems happy with the status quo of having all those wannabes in thrall to him and Sidious and probably wouldn't really consider overthrowing Palpatine with a new apprentice.
Vader - remains, as he was as a Jedi, the consummate rule breaker. I suspect Vader's numerous apprentices (Starkiller, Tao, Hethrir, Lumiya, Flint, Kharys) were trained because he had been told not to. To mitigate his obvious defiance of Sidious, he offers several to the Emperor as agents but nonetheless chafes under any doctrine (be it Jedi or Sith) that prevents him from doing whatever he wants. |
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Re: Darth Plagueis Novel by James Luceno
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Mar 27, 2011 1:17 PM
in response to: ultradroideka
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I hope this book involves the plot point of the "fake" Sith holocrons from Dark Lord.
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Re: Darth Plagueis Novel by James Luceno
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Mar 27, 2011 12:05 PM
in response to: Sue Rostoni
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Wasn't the novel cancelled.
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Re: Darth Plagueis Novel by James Luceno
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Mar 26, 2011 11:06 PM
in response to: Sue Rostoni
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I won't believe this book exists until I hold it in my hands! I won't! I think (and hope) that it does live up to the hype; though I'm not really worried about that as my excitement outweighs my fears. The Lucenopedia doesn't disappoint in regards to the Sith lore and Sith characters, and I expect he will deliver a lot of Sith philosophy, theology and badassery. I'm hoping LFL has finally given the okay to give Palpatine a first name, though at the least I hope this book still contains a lot of Palpatine, even if they still are not allowed to delve into his history and backstory.
I look at Yoda: Dark Rendezvous, which was still a fantastic book and still a fantastic YODA book, even when that title wasn't allowed to delve into his backstory and history. So I hope this book can get away with that too, and I hope we are at least able to uncover some mysteries about Plagueis.
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