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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
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Jul 20, 2007 5:52 AM
in response to: Leland Y Chee
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Can somebody help me with the Alderaanian Antilles family relations?
How is Breha Organa, Bail Antilles, Raymus Antilles and Corla Metonae related? And is anyone of them named Colton?
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
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Jul 16, 2007 11:50 AM
in response to: Jeff Ferguson
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hmm, of course, if a deleted scene is contradicted elsehwere, it must no be canon. If a deleted scene appears in the novelization, though, I would think that it's canon.
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
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Jul 15, 2007 12:14 PM
in response to: Darth Contagion
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Tasty, are the opinions of authors of a source considered canon? And I mean opinions expressed within the source, of course, not things said in interviews. For example, the opening crawl of A New Hope declared the Empire evil, and the Power of the Jedi Sourcebook declared the Potentium view of the Force misguided. And novels have a tendency of expressing the authors opinion on subjects.
These are opinions made by the authors of a source, making them "god-perspective" statements. Does this mean that they should be considered as canon as the source they appear in?
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
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Jul 14, 2007 6:03 AM
in response to: Leland Y Chee
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Thanks jSarek - just as I suspected!
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
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Jul 12, 2007 1:56 PM
in response to: Leland Y Chee
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Shaak Ti didn't actually die in the Ep III novel --- Anakin asked where she was, and was told that she was meditating in the temple, and that was all we got. The logical assumption is that she escaped.
Back in 2002, there was an article on sw.com called "DVD undelete", which mentioned that the deleted scenes in Episode II had been inserted into G-Canon. As such, it would be safe to assume that deleted scenes from Ep III are either non-canon or in canon-limbo. Then again, many of them were in the novel... hmmm...
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
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Jul 12, 2007 1:33 PM
in response to: Leland Y Chee
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I wasn't sure where deleted scenes ranked. I though I read somwhere that they were considered canon but that sounds fishy
...Also, as far as the Shaak Ti-killed-by-Grievous scene goes, it was definitely non-canon from the start, because Shaak Ti can later be glimpsed very briefly sitting on the Council when Yoda contacts them from Kashyyyk.
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
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Jul 11, 2007 6:20 AM
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The Infinites logo is rather confusing, note that the back cover has the "Rise of the Empire" and "Rebellion" era symbols. Since some stories definately are non-canon, and none seems to have gone through the normal LFL aproval, I think they just put the infinites logo there to be on the safe side.
My guess is that Dark Horse will eventually reprint those in the US, so maybe some era symbols will be changed for that...
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
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Jul 11, 2007 6:08 AM
in response to: Leland Y Chee
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I hope I haven't chosen a question that has no answer as my first post. I'm wondering, what is the continuity status of the stories in Tokyopop's Star Wars Manga Black and Silver? Each of the stories has the infinities label on the tables of contents (even the fold out artwork has infinities labels!). However, Tasty has posted that the continuity of these stories is "fuzzy." What does this mean? Furthermore, "The Story of General Grievous: Lord of War" references the planet Dica from the Grievous story. So, I'm confused. Can anyone help me out?
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
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Jul 11, 2007 12:19 AM
in response to: Darth Contagion
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The Marvels, excepting the parts referenced in other materials, are S-canon.
However, from what I've been led to believe by people who've read both the Marvels and SOTE, the contradictions are minor and solved with a few judicious retcons, so they mostly coexist rather than one superseding the other. |
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
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Jul 10, 2007 10:09 PM
in response to: Leland Y Chee
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Heya Leland, as a fan of the old Marvel comic series, I'm curious as to whether it's classified as C-canon or S-canon, or if it depends on the particular story. Also, does Shadows of the Empire supersede most of what Marvel did between Empire and Jedi?
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
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Jul 9, 2007 7:11 AM
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Ah thanks. I'm not too familiar with The Force Unleashed, though I know it's a novel based on a video game, and I think it's considered canon. I wasn't sure where deleted scenes ranked. I though I read somwhere that they were considered canon but that sounds fishy.
As far as the novel of Ep III, wouldn't any deaths in that be considered canon? I thought that the novelizations of the movies were considered second only to the movies themselves?
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
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Jul 9, 2007 6:53 AM
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As you might have noticed already, your example displays the answer:
Shaak Ti lives on through some time after Ep. III because she shows up in The Force Unleashed battling Vader's secret apprentice along with some rancors.
The deleted scenes and the novel of Ep. III show 3 possible deaths: On the Invisble Hand, in her quarters in the Jedi Temple and on the entrance of the same building - all 3 are non-canon.
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
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Jul 9, 2007 6:14 AM
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I have a question regarding deleted scenes and continuity. Are the deleted scenes considered canon? A prime example, from the deleted scenes of ROTS: did General Grievous really kill Shaak Ti aboard his ship, right in front of Obi-Wan and Aniken? Are deleted scenes considered canon, just so long as they don't contradict the released version of the film, or would they also get trumped be a SW novel?
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
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Jul 8, 2007 8:37 AM
in response to: jSarek
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I think a better question regarding the lightsabers are why some of them produce light and others don't, and how in the dark side that can be explained with in-universe science.
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
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Jul 6, 2007 7:21 PM
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Among other things, she was off with Mirax Horn gallivanting about the galaxy on some sort of adventure which hasn't been explored yet.
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
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Jul 6, 2007 1:57 PM
in response to: Leland Y Chee
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Where was Mara and what was she doing during the YJK and JJK series? You'd think she'd be fighting alongside her husband when the Shadow Academy attacked.
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
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Jul 6, 2007 1:55 AM
in response to: Darth NTM
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Better to doubt and question and be wrong than to be unswerving in one's faith . . . and be wrong.
It's cool to finally have the question answered, that's for sure.
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
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Jul 6, 2007 12:42 AM
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To all of you who doubted "Conan Antonio Motti", I say "ha" to you all.
HA!
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