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PiccoloKenobi


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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Jan 8, 2008 9:49 AM   in response to: Leland Y Chee in response to: Leland Y Chee
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Hello Tasty - good to read you again. For a good start in the eventful new year: Would you please answer some of the recent questions? ;)

For example: Is there a name for the Twi'lek Jedi Knight seen in Union or the Essential Guide to the Force (Conclave at Zonama Sekot picture)?
Leland Y Chee


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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Jan 7, 2008 5:31 PM   in response to: Leland Y Chee in response to: Leland Y Chee
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Is Tsui Choi one of the two Aleena Jedi seen riding on the can-cells in ROTS?
Yes. For official (though admittedly flimsy) confirmation, the CG model used in the film is the image that was used for Tsui Choi in Insider #87.
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Jan 7, 2008 5:22 PM   in response to: Leland Y Chee in response to: Leland Y Chee
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I've learned that a Sith Lord - even a Dark Lord of the Sith I suppose - named Darth Phobas will be mentioned in The Force Unleashed. Is this just a rumor, or is there an official source ?
There is not an official source for a "Darth Phobas." And don't get me started on "Tuilek Fodder".
Rancor_Orga

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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Jan 7, 2008 4:14 PM   in response to: JMMC in response to: JMMC
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No, it's not. As far as I know, there has never been
anything officially stating these games aren't canon.
I suppose they still fall under the rules of video
games, where the events didn't necessarily happen
exactly as you see in the game.

Yeah, you're right. That website was just wrong.
darthdevaster

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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Jan 5, 2008 4:20 AM   in response to: Leland Y Chee in response to: Leland Y Chee
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I've learned that a Sith Lord - even a Dark Lord of the Sith I suppose - named Darth Phobas will be mentioned in The Force Unleashed. Is this just a rumor, or is there an official source ?
If you have informations about this mysterious character, do not hesitate please ;)...
JMMC


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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Jan 1, 2008 10:51 AM   in response to: Rancor_Orga in response to: Rancor_Orga
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On topic, I heard from some website that says the
Rogue Squadron video game series (the ones for the
Nintendo 64 and GameCube) are non-canon. Is this true?

No, it's not. As far as I know, there has never been anything officially stating these games aren't canon. I suppose they still fall under the rules of video games, where the events didn't necessarily happen exactly as you see in the game.
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Dec 30, 2007 4:47 PM   in response to: Cheaster in response to: Cheaster
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Its inevitable that the entire Star Wars popularity
will go down in a decade or two and you can quote me
on that. Cuz the stories are way too predictable! I
do dare say Revan is better female than you guys say
chronically male. And if every character turns to the
Light, its just total bogus. But bah! My opinions
don't matter to any of you I'm sure. I've got a
better Star Wars story to surpass all the authors
which they have written! One thats so unpredictable.
But I see I'm just wasting my time here. Anyways,
farewell! >_>

Wow. I'm shocked that you said you got a better story than authors like Timothy Zahn. I would like to hear it. :P

On topic, I heard from some website that says the Rogue Squadron video game series (the ones for the Nintendo 64 and GameCube) are non-canon. Is this true?
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Dec 26, 2007 12:52 PM   in response to: Leland Y Chee in response to: Leland Y Chee
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Is Tsui Choi one of the two Aleena Jedi seen riding on the can-cells in ROTS?
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Dec 25, 2007 5:40 AM   in response to: Sompeetalay in response to: Sompeetalay
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Yeah, totally right. That's what I wanted to say! ;)
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Dec 25, 2007 3:22 AM   in response to: Cheaster in response to: Cheaster
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I do not care what the essential guide says
< You don't have to. Just as you don't have to care about Napoleon or Stalin. Official sources are always right, even if we don't want them to be. There is nothing we can do about it. We must accept it.

Don't forget it's just a game. If you really want to include games into continuity you have to deal with the fact that certain mechanisms are created for better playvalue. The gender choice is one of them.
Cheaster

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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Dec 24, 2007 7:58 PM   in response to: Leland Y Chee in response to: Leland Y Chee
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And another thing, even if you address Revan's face in the comic's it will be no surprise, I say! >>
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Dec 24, 2007 7:53 PM   in response to: PiccoloKenobi in response to: PiccoloKenobi
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UGH! I seriously feel offended. BIBLE?! Are you saying you take the entire Star Wars for worship?! Here's what I'm trying to say. As a hardcore fan, I think the genders between Revan & the Exile should be switched. I do not care what the essential guide says. I see the Exile on Wookie
http://starwars.wikia.com /wiki/Talk:Jedi_Exile
You people are way too biased. I can assure you the continuity will not last this way.
Its inevitable that the entire Star Wars popularity will go down in a decade or two and you can quote me on that. Cuz the stories are way too predictable! I do dare say Revan is better female than you guys say chronically male. And if every character turns to the Light, its just total bogus. But bah! My opinions don't matter to any of you I'm sure. I've got a better Star Wars story to surpass all the authors which they have written! One thats so unpredictable. But I see I'm just wasting my time here. Anyways, farewell! >_>
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Dec 17, 2007 9:25 AM   in response to: DarthMRN in response to: DarthMRN
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For Tasty:

The Essential Guide to the Force first claims that Healing Trances (pp. 73-74) can be induced in others by a Jedi, and will leave them unconscious for three months (or vastly longer if Ikrit is any indication), and then says Morichro (p. 82) is forbidden because it causes the tranced subject to stay so indefinitely, and might die from dehydration.

Now, one is described as a healing trance and the other as a Force trance, but I don't quite see the relevant difference other than that one heals and trances a subject, while the other only trances it. What exactly is the difference that makes one a favoured healing technique and the other a forbidden power?

Is this merely an inconsistency or error in the book?
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Dec 17, 2007 9:20 AM   in response to: grobiano in response to: grobiano
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Regarding Revan, Bastila and the Force Bond:

Kreia never appeared to have any mystical control over the Exile, nor she over her. Their bond was limited to sharing Force Powers, unexpected pain, connection to the Force, and a telepathic link. The bond the Exile shared with her other companions appear to have been of a different nature, connected to her being a Wound in the Force, which enabled her to influence their minds into doing her bidding for short amounts of time.

As for how this relates to Revan, he was not a Wound, and by all accounts not nearly as good at forming bonds as the Exile was. But even if he had been, that would only explain why he was able to convince Bastila to join him. It would not be an argument for why she shouldn't be convinced, so I don't quite follow your line of reasoning.
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Dec 15, 2007 6:12 AM   in response to: Leland Y Chee in response to: Leland Y Chee
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sithlordsforever, I can promise you that no canonical source has ever mentioned K'Kruhk's preferred lightsaber form.
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Dec 14, 2007 2:42 PM   in response to: Leland Y Chee in response to: Leland Y Chee
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Does anyone know K'kruhk's lightsaber form?
Becasue I'm sure I read somewhere that he practiced Form VII
JMMC


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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Dec 14, 2007 7:21 AM   in response to: Leland Y Chee in response to: Leland Y Chee
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Has there been any official mention of which Mon Cal cruisers get blasted by the Death Star at Endor? I believe the Liberty is confirmed to have been the first, but the one (or more) others are not, are they? The X-wing: Alliance game shows the Defiance destroyed, but it's possible that may be only a result of the players' actions in that mission.
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Dec 12, 2007 7:50 AM   in response to: Darth NTM in response to: Darth NTM
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Well, I could tell you a lot about the tradition of the Bible's text (I'm studying theology at college ;))...

In comparison to the understanding of text tradition more than 1500 years ago we don't change the text. Only its interpretation does change.

And if the SW canon is changed then only as retcon - but the only canonical ending of KotOR is the ligth side way. Revan doesn't follow the dark Bastila and redeems her at the star forge.
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Dec 10, 2007 5:11 PM   in response to: PiccoloKenobi in response to: PiccoloKenobi
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The Bible has changed - the ending to Mark, for instance, is not present in all the oldest manuscripts.
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Dec 10, 2007 4:05 PM   in response to: Cheaster in response to: Cheaster
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What are you talking about? The canon IS the bible! (Well, of course only for Star Wars... ;))

Additionally 1: The bible hasn't to be changed - it's only its interpretation!

Additionally 2: For further (canon-proof) information also see Jedi vs. Sith - The Essential Guide to the Force.

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