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Cheaster

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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Dec 24, 2007 7:58 PM   in response to: Leland Y Chee in response to: Leland Y Chee
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And another thing, even if you address Revan's face in the comic's it will be no surprise, I say! >>
Cheaster

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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Dec 24, 2007 7:53 PM   in response to: PiccoloKenobi in response to: PiccoloKenobi
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UGH! I seriously feel offended. BIBLE?! Are you saying you take the entire Star Wars for worship?! Here's what I'm trying to say. As a hardcore fan, I think the genders between Revan & the Exile should be switched. I do not care what the essential guide says. I see the Exile on Wookie
http://starwars.wikia.com /wiki/Talk:Jedi_Exile
You people are way too biased. I can assure you the continuity will not last this way.
Its inevitable that the entire Star Wars popularity will go down in a decade or two and you can quote me on that. Cuz the stories are way too predictable! I do dare say Revan is better female than you guys say chronically male. And if every character turns to the Light, its just total bogus. But bah! My opinions don't matter to any of you I'm sure. I've got a better Star Wars story to surpass all the authors which they have written! One thats so unpredictable. But I see I'm just wasting my time here. Anyways, farewell! >_>
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Dec 17, 2007 9:25 AM   in response to: DarthMRN in response to: DarthMRN
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For Tasty:

The Essential Guide to the Force first claims that Healing Trances (pp. 73-74) can be induced in others by a Jedi, and will leave them unconscious for three months (or vastly longer if Ikrit is any indication), and then says Morichro (p. 82) is forbidden because it causes the tranced subject to stay so indefinitely, and might die from dehydration.

Now, one is described as a healing trance and the other as a Force trance, but I don't quite see the relevant difference other than that one heals and trances a subject, while the other only trances it. What exactly is the difference that makes one a favoured healing technique and the other a forbidden power?

Is this merely an inconsistency or error in the book?
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Dec 17, 2007 9:20 AM   in response to: grobiano in response to: grobiano
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Regarding Revan, Bastila and the Force Bond:

Kreia never appeared to have any mystical control over the Exile, nor she over her. Their bond was limited to sharing Force Powers, unexpected pain, connection to the Force, and a telepathic link. The bond the Exile shared with her other companions appear to have been of a different nature, connected to her being a Wound in the Force, which enabled her to influence their minds into doing her bidding for short amounts of time.

As for how this relates to Revan, he was not a Wound, and by all accounts not nearly as good at forming bonds as the Exile was. But even if he had been, that would only explain why he was able to convince Bastila to join him. It would not be an argument for why she shouldn't be convinced, so I don't quite follow your line of reasoning.
grobiano


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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Dec 15, 2007 6:12 AM   in response to: Leland Y Chee in response to: Leland Y Chee
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sithlordsforever, I can promise you that no canonical source has ever mentioned K'Kruhk's preferred lightsaber form.
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Dec 14, 2007 2:42 PM   in response to: Leland Y Chee in response to: Leland Y Chee
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Does anyone know K'kruhk's lightsaber form?
Becasue I'm sure I read somewhere that he practiced Form VII
JMMC


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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Dec 14, 2007 7:21 AM   in response to: Leland Y Chee in response to: Leland Y Chee
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Has there been any official mention of which Mon Cal cruisers get blasted by the Death Star at Endor? I believe the Liberty is confirmed to have been the first, but the one (or more) others are not, are they? The X-wing: Alliance game shows the Defiance destroyed, but it's possible that may be only a result of the players' actions in that mission.
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Dec 12, 2007 7:50 AM   in response to: Darth NTM in response to: Darth NTM
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Well, I could tell you a lot about the tradition of the Bible's text (I'm studying theology at college ;))...

In comparison to the understanding of text tradition more than 1500 years ago we don't change the text. Only its interpretation does change.

And if the SW canon is changed then only as retcon - but the only canonical ending of KotOR is the ligth side way. Revan doesn't follow the dark Bastila and redeems her at the star forge.
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Dec 10, 2007 5:11 PM   in response to: PiccoloKenobi in response to: PiccoloKenobi
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The Bible has changed - the ending to Mark, for instance, is not present in all the oldest manuscripts.
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Dec 10, 2007 4:05 PM   in response to: Cheaster in response to: Cheaster
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What are you talking about? The canon IS the bible! (Well, of course only for Star Wars... ;))

Additionally 1: The bible hasn't to be changed - it's only its interpretation!

Additionally 2: For further (canon-proof) information also see Jedi vs. Sith - The Essential Guide to the Force.
Cheaster

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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Dec 8, 2007 5:11 PM   in response to: Leland Y Chee in response to: Leland Y Chee
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Very well, then. But I will believe the KOTOR series in my own way (as well most other fans do).
But just because you guys say he is, doesn't mean he really is. I don't take this literally. Revan, The Jedi Exile, & other customizable characters in the EU can be always re-edited the way we choose it to be.

Its not like the bible can't be changed. Do I not have a point?
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Dec 6, 2007 8:11 AM   in response to: Darth NTM in response to: Darth NTM
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Well, I would say he IS indeed Revan - but only a completely light side addicted. ;)
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Dec 5, 2007 10:49 PM   in response to: Cheaster in response to: Cheaster
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He's able to resist since he's an entirely different person from the Revan who joined the Sith. His mind was destroyed, and rebuilt by the Council. In effect he may have Revan's memories...but he is no longer Revan.
Cheaster

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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Dec 5, 2007 10:33 PM   in response to: PiccoloKenobi in response to: PiccoloKenobi
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I know that. I have the game. But I think thats nullifying, no offense. :(
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Dec 5, 2007 10:30 AM   in response to: Cheaster in response to: Cheaster
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Why shouldn't he resist? In this moment he is something like a Jedi Master, no longer influenced by the dark side. Indeed tries Revan to bring her back to the light side.

Well, only if you play canonically... ;)
Cheaster

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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Dec 5, 2007 5:44 AM   in response to: PiccoloKenobi in response to: PiccoloKenobi
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When Revan confronted Bastila on Lehnon in the Temple. How was he able to resist her? I just think it doesn't make any sense.
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Dec 4, 2007 9:52 AM   in response to: Cheaster in response to: Cheaster
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1.Is it true Revan is obviously the The Revanchist?

Yes, according to The Essential Guide to the Force, recently published.

2.I'd like to guess the reason that Revan wears a mask,robes(with hood), & armor . Is it because he/she (I know Revan is canonically listed as a guy) is deforming like Darth Krayt?

Call it game mechanics. The character is supposed to be disguised because the player has the opportunity to set a custom appearance just like the Exile-thing. Maybe you can look for earlier posts according to this.

3.How was Revan able to resist Bastila if she formed a bond with him in the first place? Isn't she irresistible? Its quite impossible. Cuz I've learnt from KOTOR II a bond is not easily broken.

What do you exactly mean? The bond was formed when Bastila saved the heavily injured Sith Lord from death. Or are you asking about their +relationship+? ;)
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Dec 4, 2007 3:15 AM   in response to: Borskfeylya in response to: Borskfeylya
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6° At the end of 'AotC' we see a group of Senators standing at a balcony, looking at the Clone Army that is preparing itself for the upcoming Clone Wars. Who exactly are standing at the balcony? Bail Organa, Palpatine, Mas Amedda are certain.

Then we have 3 characters that could be Senators Onaconda Farr (or Dar Wac?), Gorothin Vagger & Ask Aak. And then we have an Is. Tib & a Sy Myrthian Senator which is strange since Sy Myrth left the Republic during the Separatist Crisis.

Could you please confirm if these Senators are present and what are the names of the Is. Tib & Sy Myrthian? Is the Is. Tib Senator Gume Saam?
Borskfeylya


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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Dec 4, 2007 1:43 AM   in response to: Leland Y Chee in response to: Leland Y Chee
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Mr. Chee,
what date do you have in the holocron for the battle of Galidraan?

I'd like to know, because there are at least three different dates given in canon sources.
1. "Open Seasons" places it 34 years BBY.
2. "The New Essential Chronology" says it all happened 40 years BBY and now
3. "The Essential Guide to the Force" places the battle 44 years BBY.
But which date is correct?
Cheaster

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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Dec 3, 2007 11:00 AM   in response to: Leland Y Chee in response to: Leland Y Chee
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Sorry if this is off the topic? But I would like to ask some things about Revan.

1.Is it true Revan is obviously the The Revanchist?

2.I'd like to guess the reason that Revan wears a mask,robes(with hood), & armor . Is it because he/she (I know Revan is canonically listed as a guy) is deforming like Darth Krayt?

3.How was Revan able to resist Bastila if she formed a bond with him in the first place? Isn't she irresistible? Its quite impossible. Cuz I've learnt from KOTOR II a bond is not easily broken.

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