DarthMRN wrote: "When EU licencors are free to use or disregard Marvel at their own leisure, then it is much safer to consider only the parts which have been referenced part of continuity. Why? Because the parts that are not contradictory right now might become so in the future. IMO it would be laughable to assume stuff is continuity until contradicted. Something licencors are free to contradict should be considered optional continuity -at best."

Who said they're free to contradict it? I've never seen that stated, even remotely. In the past (Bantam period) they might have been disregarded, but they were never outright contradicted.

When Zahn was writing Allegiance, LFL sent him ... what? A stack of Marvel Star Wars comics (presumably the trade pbs.) In other words, either by implication or direct statement, LFL was saying these are the stories that occur after A New Hope.

The fact remains that at this point, 99% of the series has been referenced.

*Can we take the "Is Marvel canon or not?" argument back into its proper thread? In other words, not here. *
Yes, there is a separate thread for that, isn't there?

However, Marvel is just the example being tossed around here. I can use The Holiday Special as an example in stead, if that helps. The discussion partains to S-canon in its entirety. This must certainly be the thread for that.

How about just accepting the far simpler, more logical and more satisfying conclusion that the Marvel series is part of continuity (with the rare exception of elements that are irreconcilably contradictory), which is the status it deserves along with Splinter of the Mind's Eye, and Russ Manning and Archie Goodwin's newspaper strips.
The line between the two is extremely thin. One one hand there is no reason to assume stuff which might be continuity isn't as long as it doesn't conflict with anything. On the other hand there is no reason to think stuff that might be continuity is when that hasn't been confirmed (proven).

I totally agree. Since Mr. Chee has declared before that he won't be able to find as much time to come here as he did before, I believe we should try and ask him questions that are easily traceable for him (or at least should be).

It entered with your brazen dismissal of the series by implying that the events of it never actually happened in continuity; that the series itself is superfluous and only happens to feature the same characters, locales and events that have been brought into continuity.

How about just accepting the far simpler, more logical and more satisfying conclusion that the Marvel series is part of continuity (with the rare exception of elements that are irreconcilably contradictory), which is the status it deserves along with Splinter of the Mind's Eye, and Russ Manning and Archie Goodwin's newspaper strips.

You don't discard something valuable just because it's old and has some quirks. All of the EU--from '77 to '07--has elements that need continuity spackle. I think the time has come to embrace the whole of the EU, not just the post 1991 portion.

Regarding your first two posts, I suggest you re-read mine. No need for me to waste time typing it anew.

The day Marvel is disregarded is the day I cease being a fan of the EU. But that's not going to happen because of silly circular logic. Marvel's status is clear from the books, comics, articles, and mouths of LFL itself. Tasty said that though originally it wasn't the intent (due to Marvel being out of print) there became an "urgency" to get the Marvel series into the Holocron when they came back into print. Why would there be an urgency? So they'd remain Non-continuity with the only Canon parts of it those that had been referenced?!

Planets having one-shot alien species as opposed to established ones is not even remotely a contradiction. The EU has stated on numerous occassions that there are hundreds of thousands of sentient species, NOT a pre-established 20 that you happen to see in the films. If Lucas had wanted that, he'd have instructed the licensees to only use aliens from the films. And regardless of authors "trying to remind fans of the films" (which is silly IMO: movie-only fans don't know that Greedo is a Rodian anyway, so it's a wasted attempt that does little more than crowd the universe), we should expect to see new alien races all the time. This isn't your local supermarket, it's a galaxy.

Hello Tasty! This is bothering me for some time now and there is no other way than a question in this thread.

I'm wondering to which extent the events described in Star Wars Galaxies (and its Add-Ons) are canon. Since not every SW fan has the chance, ressources and/or money to enter the "Galaxies", it would be a pity if these fans are missing an important piece of the SW Universe.

Seems to me like it's six, one, half-a-dozen or the other. Some C-canon stuff even goes to great lengths to reconcile small details from the comics (gundarks and TIE Fighter ejection seats come to mind) with the greater continuity. What is it in Marvel that you don't want to see as part of the continuity?
Author intent does not always create continuity. When the notion that S-canon is part of SW on its own is as widespread as it is, why would authors be any less subsceptible? As for what I wouldn't like to see, that is very besides the point, as I have no hand in continuity whatsoever. Let's just say the list is longer than I have patience to write on the forums.

Connection got busted for a couple days, and now I return to find Tasty has (admittedly in his trademark vague way) confirmed my stance. Thus I see no reason to argue your points, jS, but just because I suspect you will challenge that Tasty confirmed anthing, I will pre-empt just a tad:

It's worth mentioning that when the Holocron was started, there was no intent of fully embracing the Marvel contents as continuity.
This is pretty heavy. But still, Canon changes, as seen in the next part.

After Dark Horse reprinted the comics as trade paperbacks, there was renewed interest from fans in seeing these become more relevant to continuity, and more importantly, there was now an easy way for authors and artists to access this information.
Still, nothing definite, so here we go: