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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Mar 15, 2007 12:57 PM   in response to: jacenmike957 in response to: jacenmike957
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On the Muun issue there is some info here (but no definite answer):

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Muun< /a>

Previously in this very thread though Mr Chee confirmed that those HS characters could well be Muuns:

http://forums.starwars.com/thread.jspa?threadID=152583&messageID=1593 0568#15930568

The Rodians have always puzzled me a bit as well. There were Rodians in the Senate for TPM who were presumably Onaconda Farr and his aides Tox Don and Pa Dua (although they weren't really seen in the film):

h ttp://www.starwarz.com/tbone/index.php?categoryid=12&p2_articleid=177

Then in AOTC, Dar Wac shows up as a hologram. Then, later on in Palpatine's office there's a Rodian that is dressed the same as him. However, as that Image Attack picture shows, the AOTC Onaconda Farr wore a different outfit. So going by all that, it may be that originally Dar Wac and the Rodian in Palpatine's office were supposed to be the same character and Onaconda Farr was another Rodian shot for the Senate scenes. At some point though it was decided that the one in Palpatine's office was Onaconda Farr (despite his costume being the same as Dar Wac's) and the Rodians briefly seen in the Senate must be different character entirely, or simply Farr wearing a different outfit than he wears in Palpatine's office.

I suppose one confusion saving move could've been to say that Dar Wac and the Rodian dressed like him were in fact both Dar Wac. Then all the other seen in the Senate scenes could be Farr and his aides. But I suppose there must be reasons for making Farr be the Rodian in Palpatine's office.

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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Mar 15, 2007 9:35 AM   in response to: Leland Y Chee in response to: Leland Y Chee
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Having a bit of a problem here trying to ID the Rodian politicians from the prequels;
There are several names known: Dar Wac, Onaconda Farr, Pa Dua and Tox Don, but who's who? Are any of them in TPM? As this image suggests, Farr is the one we can also see in TPM, and in AOTC we see Farr (according to the Databank), wearing the same outfit as Dar Wac. So there we have 2 names for what is actually one and the same guy.
These Rodians haven't got a name (to my knowledge):
2 Aides from TPM
Image Attack Rodian (It says Onaconda Farr there...)
So... any word to clear this matter?
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Mar 14, 2007 4:04 PM   in response to: jacenmike957 in response to: jacenmike957
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I don't get it.

Its a Muun? So what? Boba Fett first appeared in that cartoon, and ended up in the PT. Who is to say the same thing didn't happen to the Muun species?

Only possible consequence I see from this is that we have to change the First Appearance note of the Muun species on Wookieepedia. I will agree, though, it was a good find.
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Mar 14, 2007 3:18 PM   in response to: Captain Yossarian in response to: Captain Yossarian
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Mr. Chee, I was wondering what you make of this? http://boards.theforce.net/small_screen_star_wars/b10467/25578284/p1/?16
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Mar 13, 2007 2:11 PM   in response to: Captain Yossarian in response to: Captain Yossarian
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Mr Chee, I have a question as well if I may:

It is known that in ROTJ Anakin supposedly disappeared after he died and that Luke was simply burning Vader's armour on the funeral pyre. This seems to be an element of continuity which has been altered and that the original intention when the scene was made was that Luke was burning Anakin's whole body. My question is, if it was changed was it an idea created by George Lucas himself and do you know when precisely it was decided upon? The reason I ask is because although recent official sources state that Anakin did disappear (off-screen) nothing has been altered in the film to reflect that fact. So anyone who only sees the film probably does not know that Anakin is supposed to have disappeared since they are given the same impression that the audience in '83 got - that it is Anakin's whole body on the pyre.
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Mar 12, 2007 12:34 PM   in response to: jSarek in response to: jSarek
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Yes, because on the QA section (http://starwars.com/qa - Ep VI Lore section) a question is asked about who the men are that accompany the Emperor in ROTJ. The answer given is:

+Accompanying Emperor Palpatine in several scenes is a cadre of Imperial advisors. They are alternately known as Imperial dignitaries, or more sinisterly, the Emperor's Inner Circle. They wear burgundy and purple robes and have pale skin and sunken features. Many of them are key officials in the managing of the Imperial bureaucracy.

Among the members of Palpatine's Inner Circle are: Sate Pestage, Janus Greejatus, Sim Aloo, Ars Dangor, and Kren Blista-Vanee.+

Along with that answer is the same picture that has been linked to earlier. Although the answer names several members of Palpatine's Inner Circle, it does not make it clear that those names go with the men in the photo. As it happens, four out of five of the names do fit those in the picture. The only one unaccounted for is Ars Dangor. He may be the man on the far left in blue, depending on whether the answer was meant to say those names mentioned applied to those characters in the photo.

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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Mar 11, 2007 5:41 PM   in response to: DarthMRN in response to: DarthMRN
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He's asking specifically in regards to that article, in fact.
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Posted: Mar 11, 2007 4:36 PM   in response to: Captain Yossarian in response to: Captain Yossarian
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http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki /Ars_Dangor

This should clear the matter up without the need to activate the Holocron.
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Mar 11, 2007 12:10 PM   in response to: JohnTheRevelator in response to: JohnTheRevelator
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Kren Blista-Vanee is definitely the one in that picture because they made an action figure of him:

http://www.rebelscum.co m/sw0341impdignitaryB.asp

Ars Dangor seems less certain though.
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Mar 11, 2007 9:45 AM   in response to: Leland Y Chee in response to: Leland Y Chee
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Hi Tasty!

2 short questions:

Could you tell me if the names of the Imperial advisors in this image are correct? I'm familiar with Sim Aloo and Janus Greejatus from the CCG and Pestage from the X-wing comics. But where do the other two names come from?

Also, I heard you once confimed that the reborn Palpatine was actually lying to Luke when he told him his death at Endor wasn't the first time he died. Is that true?
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Mar 11, 2007 9:16 AM   in response to: Leland Y Chee in response to: Leland Y Chee
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There's conflicting sources about the death of Boga. The film and the comic leave it ambiguous, where the novel states that she is dead. So, what's up? Is Boga really dead, or is she alive?
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Mar 9, 2007 12:42 PM   in response to: DevlenPiett in response to: DevlenPiett
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I believe it is supposed to be the same Panaka from Ep I. Seems he went to work for the Empire in the end - the dastard!

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Pan aka
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Mar 9, 2007 9:22 AM   in response to: Leland Y Chee in response to: Leland Y Chee
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In Complete Locations the article about the Emepror's tower on the Death Star II it shows a statue given to him by a long time freind a follower Moff Panaka. Is this the same Panaka from Episode I or a relation?
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Feb 28, 2007 4:51 AM   in response to: Bly1993 in response to: Bly1993
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I've noticed Decipher copied Jabba's Palace Nikto characters, who now are known by two names.
< Yeah ... that was because Decipher did a lot of guessing at the end of their work. If the Nikto aren't easy enough, this only complicates it ...
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Feb 26, 2007 6:52 AM   in response to: Leland Y Chee in response to: Leland Y Chee
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And also: in Empire at War, Antilles raids Wayland in O BBY. Can you clear this up being Wayland was discovered in 9 ABY?
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Feb 25, 2007 4:34 PM   in response to: jSarek in response to: jSarek
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In the video game Star Wars: Obi-Wan, the Queen is kidnapped by Tusken Raiders on Tatooine and must be saved by Obi-Wan. I'm not sure whether the kidnapped Queen is actually Amidala, or just Sabé in disguise.

Either way, is the storyline of the game C-canon? And if so, who was the kidnapped Queen really?
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Feb 24, 2007 5:20 PM   in response to: Snake Plissken ... in response to: Snake Plissken ...
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Snake Plissken Katarn:

Quick question. Thanks to Master Zahn, can we now officially refer to Stacy Pink 5 as a canon character?

Stacy exists. All facts about her established in Allegiance exist. Everything else about her from fanfilms that aren't in the book remain fan material.
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Feb 24, 2007 4:54 PM   in response to: Snake Plissken ... in response to: Snake Plissken ...
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Hey Leland, I had heard that this was the place to clear up continuity questions. My question is: I had heard that Darth Maul was "resurrected" several times in the Star Wars Tales series. The problem is, all of the issues before 20-21 are now considered Infinities, though with varying levels of "canonosity". Which of his "resurrections" are considered canon? Or is non of them canon? Thanx
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Feb 24, 2007 2:04 PM   in response to: Leland Y Chee in response to: Leland Y Chee
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Quick question. Thanks to Master Zahn, can we now officially refer to Stacy Pink 5 as a canon character?
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Feb 23, 2007 10:05 AM   in response to: Leland Y Chee in response to: Leland Y Chee
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Isn't the Tri-droid from Ep. III much taller than 3.7 meters, as described in the databank?
That's why they're described as "scalable."

The out of universe explanation is that in the age of CG, trying to figure out exact dimensions based on film shots can drive you crazy because things get resized for the sole purpose of looking pretty in the composition of a shot. So a vehicle might have certain dimensions in one shot and different dimensions in another shot. When the CG model is created, the artists come up with approximate dimensions. Lacking any harder calculations from the films, we often go with the artists' original dimensions.

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