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Nathan P. Butler


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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Jul 20, 2010 8:41 PM   in response to: Sky74 in response to: Sky74
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Sky74 wrote:
I asked it in the BCaT VIP thread before but Sue directed me here. So, any help here would be fine ... and very much appreciated. :)

1. Why are the Darth Bane novels placed at 1020 BBY in the Del Rey book's timeline? As I take it most of the first novel should take place 1000 BBY and the parts happening earlier can't take place 20 (!) years before that, can they? Do you have more precise placements for the three novels in the Holocron?


I can partially answer this one. The prologue of Path of Destruction is in 1,006 BBY, then Chapters 1 - 5 are in 1,003 BBY, Chapters 6 - 12 and part of 13 are in 1,002 BBY, the rest of Chapter 13 and Chapters 14 - 20 are in 1,001 BBY, then the rest of the novel is in 1,000 BBY.

Rule of Two picks up in 1,000 BBY with Chapters 1 - 9 or so, including some flashbacks to during Path of Destruction. You then have flashbacks to 999 BBY, 998 BBY, 996 BBY, Once you hit Chapter 10, the rest is in 990 BBY.

Dynasty of Evil picks up later with its entirety in 980 BBY.

My guess is that there are enough flashbacks within Path of Destruction to have the nearest number they chose to use be 1,020 BBY.

Remember, though, that the timelines in the novels are not broken down by year in a way that would say that anything under a specific number and divider line is in the year with that number. Those numbered barriers on the novel timeline are landmarks, so to speak. They are handy reference landmarks, so that if you look at ROTS, you'll then find a 19 BBY marker, then everything up to right before ANH are all in a section between that marker and the next. That doesn't mean everything in that group is in 19 BBY, just that 19 BBY was the most recent landmark given.
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Jul 16, 2010 1:53 PM   in response to: Leland Y Chee in response to: Leland Y Chee
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Hey Mr. Chee, I was wondering if this Imperial officer will ever be identified. Thanks!
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Jun 14, 2010 11:15 PM   in response to: Leland Y Chee in response to: Leland Y Chee
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I'm currently trying to expand an article Rorworr of Naboo on Wookieepedia, and I had a few questions.

1) Fact File 91 (TRA 17, 18) mentions the character, "Dane," in all of the image captions. I believe the author has confused Dané and Sia-Lan Wezz. Could you possibly clarify the information in the Fact File?

2) Several sources mention the Naboo Underground (Invasion of Theed Adventure Game, ) and the Naboo Resistance (Secrets of Naboo sourcebook). Both sources mention leadership figures, but none use exclusive terms (like, "The" leader). Is it safe to assume that both are just different names for the same organization, (possibly including Naboo freedom fighter groups mentioned in other sources, such as Galactic Battlegrounds/Battle for Naboo)?

3) Do you have any information or rulings on the Battle of Skorrupon? Specifically, I'm looking for a date (simultaneous with Doom Mission?), but any rulings or holocron-only information would be lovely.
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: May 8, 2010 5:47 AM   in response to: Leland Y Chee in response to: Leland Y Chee
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Mr Chee:
In the holocron database, is there any information about the Saxton/Luceno-created warships namedropped in AOTC: Incredible Cross-Sections, ROTS: Incredible Cross-Sections and Inside the Worlds of the Star Wars Trilogy? I'm thinking specifically of the Mandator and Mandator II, the Procurator and the Praetor. The books themselves are very brief in mentioning them and I was wondering if notes or other information left behind has been added to the Holocron that wasn't in the books. If so, can you relay this info, for them or other DK ship classes? (Allegiences, ship stats etc.)

Thanks in advance! :)
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: May 6, 2010 2:14 PM   in response to: Rancor_Orga in response to: Rancor_Orga
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Yes, I know...but eyh, Jan Strange, Jan Ors... :p
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: May 6, 2010 12:03 PM   in response to: Le Passant in response to: Le Passant
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Do the Kowakian monkey-lizard (Pikk) mentionned in
the decoded version of Dooku captured in reality is
Picaroon C. Boodle (alias Pic), the Dark Jedi ?

What a coincidence, two Kowakian monkey-lizard with a
similar name...


Yes, similar, but not the same.
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Posted: May 1, 2010 2:19 PM   in response to: WFern980 in response to: WFern980
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Do the Kowakian monkey-lizard (Pikk) mentionned in the decoded version of Dooku captured in reality is Picaroon C. Boodle (alias Pic), the Dark Jedi ?

What a coincidence, two Kowakian monkey-lizard with a similar name...
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Posted: Apr 26, 2010 10:59 AM   in response to: WFern980 in response to: WFern980
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Yikes. The above post was in reference to Luke/Obi-Wan fighting Vader in Splinter of the Mind's Eye.
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Posted: Apr 26, 2010 10:56 AM   in response to: Valiento in response to: Valiento
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I don't think he even defeated him, did he? He knocked him in a hole and essentially ran away.
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Posted: Apr 22, 2010 5:45 AM   in response to: Hedec Ga in response to: Hedec Ga
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Hello Mr Chee,

Are the articles from the old french magazine Casus Belli canonical or not ?
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Apr 5, 2010 10:29 AM   in response to: Sky74 in response to: Sky74
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New Seth Green SW cartoon. Canonical or no?

Personally, if it were just chronicling the "down time" in between saving the galaxy (or what side characters or "normal" people were doing during those Big Events), I'd LOVE to see something like that be canon. But...if it's just spoofing--a la Robot Chicken style...hm... Yeah. No.
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Mar 15, 2010 1:50 PM   in response to: Leland Y Chee in response to: Leland Y Chee
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I asked it in the BCaT VIP thread before but Sue directed me here. So, any help here would be fine ... and very much appreciated. :)

1. Why are the Darth Bane novels placed at 1020 BBY in the Del Rey book's timeline? As I take it most of the first novel should take place 1000 BBY and the parts happening earlier can't take place 20 (!) years before that, can they? Do you have more precise placements for the three novels in the Holocron?

2. Regarding the new timeline in the Backlash hardcover, does the Rise of the Empire era officially start at 33 BBY now instead of 1000 BBY, so that (almost) everything before Episode I is considered Old Republic era? I don't think this was the case in previous publications.

Thanks.
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Mar 3, 2010 1:13 PM   in response to: DarthMRN in response to: DarthMRN
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Mr Leland,

I just got the first tome of Invasion (french edition), and I see some Jedi with Luke, Finn and Le'Ung in the Bulwark en route to Rychel. Notably, a Rodian. Could it be a known Rodian Jedi character ? Jovan Drark, Toile Senn, Kelbis Nu ?
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Feb 28, 2010 6:25 AM   in response to: Kratisto in response to: Kratisto
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Awesum. Yet another bit of indication that the OT novelizations and radio dramas are S.

Granted, it does look like a shield around the planet being hit, but with a superweapon that throws stuff into Hyperspace, odd special effects aren't exactly hard to explain.
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Feb 28, 2010 2:38 AM   in response to: Leland Y Chee in response to: Leland Y Chee
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In EU publications is said that Alderaan was a pacifist world with no planetary shield defenses when it was destroyed:

Graveyard of Alderaan: "planetary defenses were discarded as a show of the new philosophy" (p.5)
Dark Empire Source Book: "Alderaan had no shields of any kind, so it was utterly vaporized." (p.125)
Essential Guide to Planets and Moons: "the defenseless planet was obliterated" (p.7)
Ultimate Visual Guide: "The planet had no weapons or military force" (p.75)

Following ANH:

Leia: No! Alderaan is peaceful! We have no weapons, you can't possibly...
Tarkin: You would prefer another target, a military target?

However, in the ANH novel and radio drama, Vader says to Tarkin "The defense systems on Alderaan, despite the Senator's protestations to the contrary, were as strong as any in the Empire."

Who was telling the truth, Leia or Vader? Are correct the EU sources stating that Alderaan had no defense planetary shields?
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Feb 21, 2010 7:03 PM   in response to: darthmilo77 in response to: darthmilo77
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I actually have it all worked out in a DOC file. It isn't so much different order as a question of when you jump between PSP and DS. I go into it in moderate detail in the next "The EU Review," which should be released on SoloSound.net on Tuesday.
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Feb 21, 2010 4:59 PM   in response to: Nathan P. Butler in response to: Nathan P. Butler
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...to some degree. I think you said something about some missions happening in a different order, though I could be wrong.
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Feb 21, 2010 1:45 PM   in response to: darthmilo77 in response to: darthmilo77
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Actually, the DS and PSP versions MESH with each other. They interweave with each other. I've not yet set up the summary for the SWT-G, though, so I can't say 100% how the interweaving is done off the top of my head. That is in the DS version, I believe though.
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Feb 21, 2010 1:11 PM   in response to: Le Passant in response to: Le Passant
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It might depend on the version of the game you have. In the PSP version, he's a Jedi Master in Act III, starting with the Bespin mission. Nathan said the DS version is substantially different, so it's unclear what the real timeline is. I'd like to know the time placement as well.
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Re: Holocron continuity database questions
Posted: Feb 21, 2010 11:08 AM   in response to: lukevanhorn in response to: lukevanhorn
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Another question about Elite Squadron. The response to my precedent question was evident : the end of the game must take place sometimes between 5.1 ABY and 5.6 ABY (after the Battle of Mindor and before the (General Skywalkfer" six monthes end).

But I read that X-2 is promoted Jedi Master by Luke. Were does this come from ? I can't find any reference.

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