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Rainbow Droideka


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Re: EU Leadup to Revenge of the Sith
Posted: May 2, 2005 1:24 AM   in response to: Darth Piniata in response to: Darth Piniata
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Haha, that's quite funny. Some of the languages in the movies were based on real languages too. Ben Burtt's Galactic Travel Guide & Phrasebook has a lot of interesting information about that kind of stuff.
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Re: EU Leadup to Revenge of the Sith
Posted: Apr 30, 2005 9:35 AM   in response to: Leland Y Chee in response to: Leland Y Chee
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What I foudn really funny, was those cat aliens were actually speaking Hungarian (well, some things)! And what the old guy said something, and Obi Wan's translation was totally wrong! :P (I forgot which CW episode)
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Re: EU Leadup to Revenge of the Sith
Posted: Apr 30, 2005 6:46 AM   in response to: ChrisLyne in response to: ChrisLyne
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^ It's all just one big mess... It makes my head hurt trying to put it all together! We need a much stricter continuity authority otherwise it'll happen again!
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Re: EU Leadup to Revenge of the Sith
Posted: Apr 30, 2005 3:46 AM   in response to: ≈Suzanne&... in response to: ≈Suzanne&...
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But the attack on Coruscant didn't happen until after
they were at Nelvaan in the cartoon, did it?

True, but that can be put down to pacing reasons with the cartoon. Look at Chapters 6+7 in CW V.1, no one will argue that they're set there, everyone accepts that they came earlier as that avoids the clash with Republic #51-52. There's no reason why that can't be done here, and in fact that would make the one month line make a lot more sense.

Astrobot42 I know what you mean, my enjoyment of V.2 was lessened by all these errors. I've found the end scene of 25 works nicely just before the final chapter of LoE, it's not perfect but the flow seems ok and it makes sense that the Jedi would contact them given Palpatine's transmission to Anakin was both private and from before his kidnapping.
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Re: EU Leadup to Revenge of the Sith
Posted: Apr 29, 2005 10:15 PM   in response to: ≈Suzanne&... in response to: ≈Suzanne&...
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Palpatine's capture and the chase I just view as a simpler interpretation of events in LoE (all of which couldn't be fitted into such short episodes).

I dunno...they still bug me after reading LoE because the two accounts are SO very different. I would agree that Nelvaan should be knocked back a couple of months officially, since I see no real plot reason why they need to happen immediately before RotS. I would say that the last scene in the cartoon with Anakin and Obi-Wan being called to Coruscant should just be called "unofficial", only there to make the story flow better.

I still don't like that sort of cut-and-pasting, though. I have a hard time enjoying the cartoon now, since I don't know what's "real" and what's "stylized".
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Re: EU Leadup to Revenge of the Sith
Posted: Apr 29, 2005 6:53 PM   in response to: ChrisLyne in response to: ChrisLyne
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But the attack on Coruscant didn't happen until after they were at Nelvaan in the cartoon, did it?
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Re: EU Leadup to Revenge of the Sith
Posted: Apr 29, 2005 5:30 PM   in response to: ChrisLyne in response to: ChrisLyne
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Palpatine?s capture and the chase I just view as a simpler interpretation of events in LoE (all of which couldn?t be fitted into such short episodes).

The only thing I really take issue with is Nelvaan. Personally I feel there?s no way Anakin would waste time going to Nelvaan tracking Grievous knowing that Coruscant, and therefore Padmé, is under attack. Plus the one month thing is clearly stated in 22, so there?s no harm done at all in putting it before LoE in the empty months (why force things into a tight gap?). I still take issue with it as I feel that the whole concept of a ?spirit trial? was handled far better in Jedi Trial (even though it was never called spirit trial). His actions after Reija died in his arms were a far greater test of his spirit and showed that at this point he is still essentially a good person (which can be seen in LoE) and it is the one instance where the animated series was given a little too much free reign.
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Re: EU Leadup to Revenge of the Sith
Posted: Apr 29, 2005 5:29 PM   in response to: ChrisLyne in response to: ChrisLyne
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The Council scene in 21 I feel safe to ignore. Ki implies it takes place at 4 months, Obi-Wan at 30 months. I view it as a nice and well done way of bridging the 2 series for those who don't read the books and comics, but something that can be overlooked by those who have read the other media.

I personally don't like the idea of Anakin seeing Padmé again after Obsession as the more he sees her the more it takes away from the fact that he's not seen her in a long time. The meeting between Anakin and Padmé in 22 I view as being an interpretation of their meeting in Obsession, something put in there for those who haven't read the comics to see roughly when Luke and Leia were conceived and to show the two together before Anakin's long absence.

The Battle of Coruscant scenes are ok. Yoda saying they have to protect the city fits perfectly with LoE, and the battle scenes can be slotted in easily enough.

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Re: EU Leadup to Revenge of the Sith
Posted: Apr 29, 2005 5:27 PM   in response to: Master Starkeil... in response to: Master Starkeil...
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I really hope that they do go according to continuity for the new show but I'm worried about it. Both the start of the war (Boba Fett, Battle of Kamino, CW video game) and the end of the war (LoE, RoF, CW V.2) are covered in several sources. For an ongoing series both introduction and conclusion are important, and it whilst it would satisfy us continuity freaks it would be bad in terms of story telling to do a series based purely on the middle and saying read LoE or watch CW V.2 for the ending. Personally I'm all for the new series showing events from the already released material. It would be nice to see the Clone Wars covered in one style with no continuity clashes and new adventures thrown in to fill in the gaps and show us what other characters were up to during the war and what went on in the large gaps.

As for the LoE vs. CW V.2 debate, I personally am throwing my lot in with LoE. But at the same time I see no problem with the interpretations shown in the CW.

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Re: EU Leadup to Revenge of the Sith
Posted: Apr 29, 2005 3:57 AM   in response to: Rainbow Droideka in response to: Rainbow Droideka
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^ Well... if it works... ;)
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Re: EU Leadup to Revenge of the Sith
Posted: Apr 28, 2005 2:22 PM   in response to: Master Starkeil... in response to: Master Starkeil...
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I vote for a Tasty Empire!

Sounds like part of the M&M Star Wars promotion... :)
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Re: EU Leadup to Revenge of the Sith
Posted: Apr 28, 2005 1:32 PM   in response to: Astrobot42 in response to: Astrobot42
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^ I vote for a Tasty Empire! If I am forced to survive another stab at my continuity-freak heart like that the one I survived barely with Clone Wars and L.o.E., I'd lose all faith in continuity. X-( A dictatorship is the only solution here! All hail Lord Tasty!
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Re: EU Leadup to Revenge of the Sith
Posted: Apr 27, 2005 1:37 PM   in response to: Darth Piniata in response to: Darth Piniata
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HEH. I love Penny Arcade. I don't think they have anything to worry about, though - if anything, George Lucas keeps travelling further and further from reality...he likes the most extreme concepts. I seriously doubt he would let any seepage from our present impose itself on his universe.

Tycho seems to be for the TV show, though...taken from his blurb: "There is a lot of room for an action-oriented war serial with characters who aren't immortal and more occasional intrusions of the supernatural elements of the Star Wars universe."

But I to get back on topic...is anyone else in favor of voting Tasty some "emergency powahs"?
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Re: EU Leadup to Revenge of the Sith
Posted: Apr 27, 2005 12:27 PM   in response to: Astrobot42 in response to: Astrobot42
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I am scared of the live action series. Here is a link from Penny Arcade: imghttp://img.penny-arcade.c om/2005/20050427l.jpg[/img]
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Re: EU Leadup to Revenge of the Sith
Posted: Apr 27, 2005 12:03 PM   in response to: Leland Y Chee in response to: Leland Y Chee
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Emperor Chee has a nice ring to it... ;)
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Re: EU Leadup to Revenge of the Sith
Posted: Apr 27, 2005 2:49 AM   in response to: Astrobot42 in response to: Astrobot42
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Well actually....that's kind of Tasty's job.
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Re: EU Leadup to Revenge of the Sith
Posted: Apr 27, 2005 1:47 AM   in response to: The2ndquest in response to: The2ndquest
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What we really need is a zealous Continuity Emperor that is in charge of coordinating books, comics, games and TV, and who has power to demand that the disperate elements conform to each other.

"That sounds a lot like a dictatorship to me."
"Well...if it works..."
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Re: EU Leadup to Revenge of the Sith
Posted: Apr 26, 2005 6:21 PM   in response to: Astrobot42 in response to: Astrobot42
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The new Clone Wars cartoon bodes better, since they've apaprently asked for copis of the books and comics and such.
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Re: EU Leadup to Revenge of the Sith
Posted: Apr 26, 2005 4:02 PM   in response to: Darth Rebelo (c... in response to: Darth Rebelo (c...
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I think the Clone Wars series and Labyrinth of Evil (LoE) were perfect prequels, but I don't know which is better: Clone Wars or LoE, because they both end kinda differently.

I know, it's kinda frustrating...I just finished LoE, and I had to decide which accounting of events to believe. LoE, of course, but unfortunatelythe conflict dimishes my enjoyment of the cartoons, now - I have to watch the Coruscant parts knowing that they aren't "real". According to the same book, though, most of the other stuff that happened in the cartoon was in-continuity, so I just don't know what to think. I love 'em both, though.

Does anyone else fear for the new TV series? The whole Clone Wars vs. LoE thing bodes ill for continuity.
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Re: EU Leadup to Revenge of the Sith
Posted: Apr 25, 2005 4:17 PM   in response to: The2ndquest in response to: The2ndquest
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*It looks hopefuly they wn't ignore continuity with the 3D Clone Wars series as Leland mentioned to me that whomever is currently in charge of the project requested copies of the Clone Wars material. *

Hopefully, that means ALL Clone Wars material, including Literature, Video Games, Cartoons, and Comics.

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