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Rainbow Droideka


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Re: Welcome some BCaT VIPs
Posted: Jan 30, 2006 10:49 PM   in response to: Master Starkeil... in response to: Master Starkeil...
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According to one of theforce.net's Technical Commentaries, Endor's wildlife is mostly extinguished immediately following RotJ. I know it makes sense, and I know that there's many EU references to Endor being this way, but I need to be sure!

That is the personal opinion of Curtis Saxton (author of the Technical Commentaries), and not part of the canon. In fact, as the others said, it contradicts many in-continuity sources, and so is very unlikely to be correct. Saxton tried to force that into continuity by including that comment in the part of Complete Locations that he wrote (originally +Inside the Worlds of the Star Wars Trilogy+), but he obviously wasn't able to get an explicit statement in, and for good reason.
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Posted: Jan 30, 2006 10:43 PM   in response to: lavabeastjawenko in response to: lavabeastjawenko
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with the Anakin one taking a bit too many liberties with podracer names

Actually, I those are the podracer names from the TPM novel by Terry Brooks. It's not liberties being taken exactly - it's that it was written before Episode I came out, and they thought those were going to be the podracers' names. But since that's contradicted by the movie and related materials since then, you can probably count that as on of those small out-of-continuity things. I think one of the reference books might have retconned that by saying those were the names of some of the backup racers who would have been allowed on the course had any of the main competitors dropped out.
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Posted: Jan 30, 2006 10:43 PM   in response to: lavabeastjawenko in response to: lavabeastjawenko
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I've recently finished the Episode 1 Journals series, and I'd like to know, are they acknowledged as canon?

I'm under the impression that they are, in general. If something's especially strange, or contradicts other sources, you can probably count that specifically out, but I think they're considered part of the continuity on the whole.
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Re: Welcome some BCaT VIPs
Posted: Jan 30, 2006 10:37 PM   in response to: GreenLightsaber24 in response to: GreenLightsaber24
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Does anyone have information from a source that's NOT a wiki? No offense; I just don't trust them.

I can personally confirm that the quoted material from the Wiki accurately sums up the situation, and contains no factual inaccuracies.
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Posted: Jan 30, 2006 10:35 PM   in response to: Rainbow Droideka in response to: Rainbow Droideka
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Just to add one more thing on that topic - like I said, you can't trust them absolutely. So it's always a good idea to check anything important against sources that you trust. But I don't think skipping the Wiki altogether is necessarily wise, if you have that option.
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Posted: Jan 30, 2006 10:31 PM   in response to: Jedi Comedian in response to: Jedi Comedian
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I'm on JC's side here. I'm skeptical and cautious myself, but Wiki sources can be very useful, as long as you don't trust them absolutely.

Wikipedia etc., in my opinion, is in general more reliable than other sources, because it's more democratic. It's not the truth from one person's point of view, it's the common denominator of many people's points of view.

Of course, this starts not to work as well when you get to articles that are so obscure that few people have edited them. But in general, I think it's unfair and shortsighted to consider Wiki worthless.
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Posted: Jan 30, 2006 10:24 AM   in response to: Jedi Comedian in response to: Jedi Comedian
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*> Does anyone have information from a source that's NOT
a wiki? No offense; I just don't trust them.

My hero! Enter the Academy of Journalism, GL24, and claim your prize.*

:( As a hopeful journalist, this hurts me. In my defence, all the examples I quoted from Wookieepedia were backed up with sources, and those that weren't were clearly stated as speculation. At least I did my research.

JC twiddles his thumbs and hopes his hasty explanation will earn him a place at the Academy of Journalism.
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Posted: Jan 30, 2006 10:15 AM   in response to: Master Starkeil... in response to: Master Starkeil...
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Where is it established that there is a barrier around the galaxy? If there was, how would the characters travel to the Unknown Regions or Wild Space? And how would the Yuuzhan Vong have invaded.

There is no evidence to suggest that there is a physical barrier around the galaxy at all. It makes no sense.
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Posted: Jan 29, 2006 2:54 PM   in response to: lavabeastjawenko in response to: lavabeastjawenko
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Like it or not, that's not the Galaxy. It has been estabilished that no ship can enter or exit the Galaxy because of a barrier that surrounds it.
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Posted: Jan 29, 2006 9:04 AM   in response to: James T. Skywal... in response to: James T. Skywal...
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Eh, myself, I'd rather go without that retcon. For me, at least, it'd kinda dampen the emotional impact of the end of ESB is I knew that our heroes were looking at something a fat Besalisk mentioned in AotC briefly. Sorry.
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Posted: Jan 29, 2006 7:40 AM   in response to: Darth Minious in response to: Darth Minious
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*From the ESB novelization: After their resounding defeats at the hand of the Empire, the Rebel Alliance has retreated to the space just outside the edge of the Galaxy, to (in essence) catch their breath, and regroup.

When TESB came out, there was no mention of the Chiss or Unknown regions. No mention that the Empire was controlled anything less than the ENTIRE galaxy.

In other words, it IS the SW galaxy.*

Okay. Thanks!

But I just heard about a possible recent retcon to make this in actuality the Rishi maze. Anyone know anything about this?
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Posted: Jan 29, 2006 7:37 AM   in response to: Karen Traviss in response to: Karen Traviss
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My hero! Enter the Academy of Journalism, GL24, and claim your prize.<<< blush
Thank you, ma'am.

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Re: Welcome some BCaT VIPs
Posted: Jan 29, 2006 6:37 AM   in response to: GreenLightsaber24 in response to: GreenLightsaber24
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Does anyone have information from a source that's NOT
a wiki? No offense; I just don't trust them.

My hero! Enter the Academy of Journalism, GL24, and claim your prize.
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Posted: Jan 29, 2006 5:53 AM   in response to: GreenLightsaber24 in response to: GreenLightsaber24
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VIPs, or anyone who can help: At the end of ESB, Luke and Leia watch the Falcon disappear in front of what looks like a galaxy...can anyone tell me just what they're looking at? Is it the Star Wars galaxy, or some bit of space phenomenon, or what?
From the ESB novelization: After their resounding defeats at the hand of the Empire, the Rebel Alliance has retreated to the space just outside the edge of the Galaxy, to (in essence) catch their breath, and regroup.

When TESB came out, there was no mention of the Chiss or Unknown regions. No mention that the Empire was controlled anything less than the ENTIRE galaxy.

In other words, it IS the SW galaxy.
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Posted: Jan 29, 2006 5:40 AM   in response to: James T. Skywal... in response to: James T. Skywal...
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Does anyone have information from a source that's NOT a wiki? No offense; I just don't trust them.
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(cont.)

2. It could be the Rishi Maze, as mentioned in AotC. When we see the Jedi Archives map of the galaxy, the Rishi Maze is one of two "satellite galaxies" in the outer regions. The AotC DVD-ROM states that this may be what Luke and Leia are looking at. Also, the name 'Intergalactic Banking Clan' seems to support the theory that there is more than one galaxy in the GFFA.

3. It is some kind of space phenomenon, such as a protostellar disk or a nebula. This is supported by the fact the speed of rotation visible would be impossible for a galaxy.
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Posted: Jan 29, 2006 3:58 AM   in response to: Jeff Ferguson in response to: Jeff Ferguson
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According to the Wookieepedia entry for the galaxy, it is inconclusive as to whether the object visible at the end of ESB is the GFFA seen from the outside. There are 3 main theories as to the explanation:

1. It is the Star Wars galaxy, as seen from hundreds of thousands of light years away. Several sources claim that the Rebel fleet spent some time hiding outside the galaxy, probably referring to this incident.

(cont.)
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Posted: Jan 28, 2006 8:52 PM   in response to: GreenLightsaber24 in response to: GreenLightsaber24
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I've wondered that myself. In Tales of the Bounty Hunters, in Zuckuss and 4-LOM's Tale, it states that the Rebel fleet is stationed at the extreme edge of the galaxy, and I can't remember if the ESB novelization has anything to say about it.
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Re: Welcome some BCaT VIPs
Posted: Jan 28, 2006 6:01 PM   in response to: James T. Skywal... in response to: James T. Skywal...
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VIPs, or anyone who can help: At the end of ESB, Luke and Leia watch the Falcon disappear in front of what looks like a galaxy...can anyone tell me just what they're looking at? Is it the Star Wars galaxy, or some bit of space phenomenon, or what?

*I knew the answer to this one a long time ago, but my memory is failing me...
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Re: Welcome some BCaT VIPs
Posted: Jan 28, 2006 5:46 PM   in response to: Nathan P. Butler in response to: Nathan P. Butler
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does this mean we will be seeing other Marvel creations such as Hoojibs () and.?. Zeltrons..?<<

Well, we did get a Zeltron in Jedi: Shaak Ti, found in the Clone Wars Volume 2 TPB.

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