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Re: Books, Comics, & Television VIPs 3.0
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My question, as you may recall, was for Sue or another VIP with actual insight behind the scenes at Lucasfilm or Del Rey, not a call for opening arguments in People v. Galaxies.
You know- that's precisely why we made the Fan Reactions thread- (which I've not managed to find after the move- looks at the mods  )
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Re: Books, Comics, & Television VIPs 3.0
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yeah but here's the whole thing though nathan. Nobody really cares about the stupid star wars galaxies game that came out. People would rather care what they read in the actual books in the EU timeline instead of who pops up in the games. Now if it's a really well done game like Force Unleashed then yes i'd integrate those characters into the scheme of things but not something that wasn't all that well received like Star Wars Galaxies. That's why it's ok for them to kill typho off in the books and not care if he popped up in the galaxies game or not.
I think he's referring to Typho being in the Galaxies book though, or am I wrong Nathan? I mean if he's in the Galaxies The Ruins of Dantooine, then that's a lot different then just "in game" you get what I mean Darthblakhwk? For it's a book on book continuity crime lol |
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Re: Books, Comics, & Television VIPs 3.0
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On Galaxies canon, Leland has said his info comes mostly from guides, not the game itself. I imagine that precludes very detailed info, focusing mostly on large strokes in the storyline, which would explain Typho.
I'll be damned if I can source this, though. But I did find this:
Galaxies...are there any plot elements that make it into the Holocron, or is most of what can be referenced setting/character material?
Mostly setting/character material. Plot setups, like the Dead Eye Project are also included.
http://forums.starwars.com/thread.jspa?threadID=194183&start=80&tstart=0
Which is more ambiguous on where the info comes from, but still makes it seem like the game has received lackbuster testing and integration compared to many other works.
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Re: Books, Comics, & Television VIPs 3.0
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Not to get off topic by addressing the VIPs...
Sue, I see we've got the Knight Errant book cover on a poster at Comic Con... and it's even on the Official Site, to boot!
http://www.starwars.com/fans/events/comiccon2010_preview_night/index.ht ml?page=5
My question is... do you know of any immediate plans to show us a... flatter image of that as part of it's own article? |
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Re: Books, Comics, & Television VIPs 3.0
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On Galaxies canon, Leland has said his info comes mostly from guides, not the game itself. I imagine that precludes very detailed info, focusing mostly on large strokes in the storyline, which would explain Typho.
On a personal note, I think that is a highly unsatisfactory degree of integration/testing on Licensing's part. Then they should just have made it S to begin with, or decided only the guides were continuity...which maybe they have, when I think about it.
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Re: Books, Comics, & Television VIPs 3.0
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Jul 22, 2010 8:35 AM
in response to: Master Optician
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Many would dispute that.
Me being one of the many.
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Re: Books, Comics, & Television VIPs 3.0
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Jul 22, 2010 8:34 AM
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I wonder has anyone considered the notion of joining the story arcs of the Corrusant Knights and Imperial Commando in a continuation of the CK series.
If I remember correctly they both occur around the same time, they both concern the freedom and dissapearence of fugitives.
The stories could be joined together in such a way that Darman and Niner hunt Jedi and other fugatives attracting the attention of Jax Pavan. This could be one of many connections that could bring about a meeting with clan Shirata.
I could see the Pavan and Shirata team "working" together to solve the dissapearence of the Jedi and other fugitives and solving what to do with the Death Watch who could be hired to track down the fugitive Jedi/others.
The best parts of both series could be combined together for one potentialy great novel or two, while still allowing room to answer the following:
---- What happens to the surviving Jedi and if they do survive why do they not join Luke's Order?
---- Do the Clones get the cure they are after and how?
---- What happens to the characters from the two series?
I think two novels combining the two series would be great and could potentially finish up allot of open plot points from both series
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Re: Books, Comics, & Television VIPs 3.0
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Jul 22, 2010 6:47 AM
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Now if it's a really well done game like Force Unleashed then yes i'd integrate those characters into the scheme of things
Many would dispute that.
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Re: Books, Comics, & Television VIPs 3.0
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Jul 22, 2010 5:40 AM
in response to: Nathan P. Butler
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It might be worth trying to get Leland Chee or Sue Rostoni or someone like that to do an X.5 interview on The EU Review. After all, the "decision to go against established canon" was a big thing for TCW, and Karen Miller explained how she got the "Knighted at 4 weeks, TCW film at 9 weeks post-Geonosis" into canon officially, and while perfectly in line with the new, higher-level T-canon, does contradict old stuff, and so presumably had to go through a similar mechanism.
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Re: Books, Comics, & Television VIPs 3.0
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Jul 22, 2010 4:11 AM
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yeah but here's the whole thing though nathan. Nobody really cares about the stupid star wars galaxies game that came out. People would rather care what they read in the actual books in the EU timeline instead of who pops up in the games. Now if it's a really well done game like Force Unleashed then yes i'd integrate those characters into the scheme of things but not something that wasn't all that well received like Star Wars Galaxies. That's why it's ok for them to kill typho off in the books and not care if he popped up in the galaxies game or not.
So, your logic is:
"I don't care, so no one should care."
"I didn't like it, so no one liked it."
By your argument, nothing in The Clone Wars should ever be integrated "into the scheme of things" because, well, there are plenty of fans who don't care for it in relation to the previous Clone Wars materials, and if we don't all rave about it, it shouldn't be counted.
Or . . . wait . . . is it only your opinion that gets to decide these things?
I'm not sure if your perspective here is breathtakingly naive or simply the height of fandom egotism.
Either way, you don't decide what is or is not canon, nor what is or is not within continuity.
Now, do you have something constructive to actually add to the conversation with regard to the process behind the scenes when it came to the handling of the previous Coruscant Nights books, or is this simply an episode of "Darthblakhwk's Preferences Rule the World"? My question, as you may recall, was for Sue or another VIP with actual insight behind the scenes at Lucasfilm or Del Rey, not a call for opening arguments in People v. Galaxies.
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Re: Books, Comics, & Television VIPs 3.0
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Jul 22, 2010 2:44 AM
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We get that you don't care. Some people do, if not about Galaxies then about the maintenance of a shared continuity in general. Besides which, you're still apparently missing Nathan's point...
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Re: Books, Comics, & Television VIPs 3.0
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Jul 22, 2010 1:27 AM
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yeah but here's the whole thing though nathan. Nobody really cares about the stupid star wars galaxies game that came out. People would rather care what they read in the actual books in the EU timeline instead of who pops up in the games. Now if it's a really well done game like Force Unleashed then yes i'd integrate those characters into the scheme of things but not something that wasn't all that well received like Star Wars Galaxies. That's why it's ok for them to kill typho off in the books and not care if he popped up in the galaxies game or not.
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Re: Books, Comics, & Television VIPs 3.0
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I just received the new issue of Insider. Am I correct in understanding, based on the article about Blood Ties and Randy Stradley's comments therein, that Boba does NOT know that he is a clone of Jango for at least nearly the first decade of his life? It sure seems like Stradley just told us that Boba doesn't learn that until Blood Ties in the article.
My issue of Insider hasn't arrived yet, so I haven't read Mr. Stradley's quote, but that... doesn't seem all that surprising to me. I mean, it's not like he'd grow up inherently knowing he was a clone; at some point, he'd have to be told. I don't know much about adopted kids, but age 8-9 doesn't seem like that much of a stretch for when you'd clue them in.
Though I'm also curious to hear Ms. Rostoni's reply.
As for this new book, it's obviously The Lepus Carnivorus Strikes Back. That's what fans have been clamoring for, for years.
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Re: Books, Comics, & Television VIPs 3.0
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perhaps a novel version of the Dark Empire comics - possible, but I'd guess unlikely.
I think that too, just because I think I recently saw Sue say on here that they weren't going to do that.
It'd make a powerful novel, though.
For what it's worth, if you want a really powerful presentation of Dark Empire (and I guess Dark Empire II and Empire's End, but they weren't done nearly as well), you definitely need to check out the Dark Empire audio drama, particularly the CD collection if you can (which is the only way Empire's End was released).
The audio version of the scene where Luke finally gives in to the whispers of the Dark Side, believing he can only destroy it from within, and throws down his lightsaber, saying, "Yes . . . My father's destiny . . . is my own" still gives me chills each time I listen to it. |
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Re: Books, Comics, & Television VIPs 3.0
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Another couple of possibilities are a Palpatine novel - nope. that's why plageus was cancled, so I doubt it.
Well...but the bloom of Ep III is five years off the rose, people would definitely buy it, and it would make a lot of money. The longer it's been since Ep III, the less they'll care about preserving the mystery. And everybody wants another James Luceno book. The story will have to be told sometime. It is something people have been asking for for years. I'd be willing to bet this is it. GL doesn't care anything about Palpatine, he's not going to put him in the series, so he'd be fair game.
-a young Leia story - probably out due to the 2 years only after ROTs and before ANH rule
I dunno. This is what A.C. Crispin wanted to write and they wouldn't let her.
perhaps a novel version of the Dark Empire comics - possible, but I'd guess unlikely.
I think that too, just because I think I recently saw Sue say on here that they weren't going to do that.
It'd make a powerful novel, though.
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Re: Books, Comics, & Television VIPs 3.0
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Jul 21, 2010 4:53 PM
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Okay this is the way i look at this. Typho was in Attack of the clones which came out in 2002. Galaxies came out in 2003. Therefore I look at it just as the makers of galaxies threw typho's character into that game just to surprise fans because they seen him in Episode 2. That's why i'm perfectly happy seeing Typho killed off in street of shadows because he worked better as a character that just had a supporting role etc etc. I'm more willing to believe in him dying in street of shadows instead of him showing up 20 years later in galaxies just because it was something to please the fans at the time of AOTC coming out shortly beforehand. Lets just face it, the guys dead and no one really cares. Move Along, Move Along.
You've again missed the entire point in why the character's death was asked about in the first place.
The question was not "should have have died," or "who cares if he died." It's a procedural question of how such a decision is made to override previous continuity to impose a new, contradictory circumstance onto canon, couched in part in a question of the overall continuity issues presented throughout the same series that, at least ostensibly, should have gone through several people for approvals, yet still came out with major chronological errors and contradictions, to the point where it made the entire climax of a particular novel implausible. |
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Re: Books, Comics, & Television VIPs 3.0
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Jul 21, 2010 4:10 PM
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Okay this is the way i look at this. Typho was in Attack of the clones which came out in 2002. Galaxies came out in 2003. Therefore I look at it just as the makers of galaxies threw typho's character into that game just to surprise fans because they seen him in Episode 2. That's why i'm perfectly happy seeing Typho killed off in street of shadows because he worked better as a character that just had a supporting role etc etc. I'm more willing to believe in him dying in street of shadows instead of him showing up 20 years later in galaxies just because it was something to please the fans at the time of AOTC coming out shortly beforehand. Lets just face it, the guys dead and no one really cares. Move Along, Move Along.
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Re: Books, Comics, & Television VIPs 3.0
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So sorry. My bad.
No need to apologize at all. 
In case no one has heard but it's recently been said that Karen Traviss will be writing a series of Halo novels taking place after the events of Halo 3, starting with a sequel to Ghosts of Onyx.
Good for her. Not sure why that's of any relevance in this thread. She's not involved with us anymore.
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Re: Books, Comics, & Television VIPs 3.0
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In case no one has heard but it's recently been said that Karen Traviss will be writing a series of Halo novels taking place after the events of Halo 3, starting with a sequel to Ghosts of Onyx.
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Re: Books, Comics, & Television VIPs 3.0
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It's not that Typho's an interesting character and that he should survive. It's that Typho appeared in SW: Galaxies, which happens 20 years after Streets of Shadow. Mr. Reaves killed him off, even though he is alive and well later on, per the canon.
Mason hit the nail on the head. That's precisely why I was asking. I'm curious how that kind of decision is made, what process it goes through. (You know me, I enjoy learning things like that.)
Speaking of learning things:
I just received the new issue of Insider. Am I correct in understanding, based on the article about Blood Ties and Randy Stradley's comments therein, that Boba does NOT know that he is a clone of Jango for at least nearly the first decade of his life? It sure seems like Stradley just told us that Boba doesn't learn that until Blood Ties in the article. |
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