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Re: Star Wars - The Old Republic - Fatal Alliance
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I thought Satele Shan was awesome! I could see ways that she was like Bastila and yet she was very much her own Jedi. I like her more than Bastila actually. I thought it was interesting that she was a little shorter than everyone else. Usually characters are Wookiee tall or Yoda short. Very few characters are on the short side.
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Re: The Old Republic: Fatal Alliance discussion
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The cover looks amazing.
Who would have thought forever could be severed by... the sharp knife... of a short life?
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Star Wars - The Old Republic - Fatal Alliance
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Jul 30, 2010 5:02 AM
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Just finished reading this book and it was awesome. any other thoughts on this?
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Re: The Old Republic: Fatal Alliance discussion
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Re: The Old Republic: Fatal Alliance discussion
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I have to give kudos to Williams for digging back into the Russ Manning strips for that particular twist.
I am afraid that went right over my head. Did he write a similar situation?
The Getkl species was, other than sourcebooks, only found in Russ Manning's story Bring Me the Children. It was reprinted later in Classic Star Wars: The Early Adventures. |
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Re: The Old Republic: Fatal Alliance discussion
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Jul 27, 2010 9:24 AM
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I have to give kudos to Williams for digging back into the Russ Manning strips for that particular twist.
I am afraid that went right over my head. Did he write a similar situation?
Also, does anyone know why Stryver wanted Clunker? I mean I know he controlled the whole fleet for a while. Was it because she wanted the super droid or was there something I missed about Nebula's identity? |
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I agree that makes more sense Especially considering at the end of the novel there is a section that talks about the sacking of Coruscant and how a tree was planted for every victim and they had by this point grown into a small forest.
That is true. I hadn't even considered that. I was more focused on the the question of how young Larin would have to be for the Treaty of Coruscant to come before the annexation of Kiffu and Kiffex, which was so long ago that she was too young to remember clearly, since that event was also a year after Shigar was found to have Jedi potential.
I still think that my current estimate of 11 years (just to have a number to go with) isn't QUITE where I'd like it to be, since that would still probably make Larin a bit old not to remember, but Shigar remembers using the Force by instinct to help win races on Kiffu, so he was certainly older than a baby or toddler before he was taken by the Jedi.
Is it strange that the Dao Styver reveal was the one that had me the most shocked?
Yep, it was the most shocking to me as well, and while it felt really out of place, I have to give kudos to Williams for digging back into the Russ Manning strips for that particular twist. |
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Re: The Old Republic: Fatal Alliance discussion
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Is it strange that the Dao Styver reveal was the one that had me the most shocked?
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Re: The Old Republic: Fatal Alliance discussion
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New information to put in here chronologically. We have another contradiction.
According to the developers and Leland, the game is set no less than six years but no more than thirty years after the Treaty of Coruscant.
That narrowed us to 3,647 - 3,623 BBY.
Sean Williams has said that the novel is set just before the game itself, and the developers have said that the game starts less than ten years after the Treaty of Coruscant.
That narrows us down to 3,653 - 3,643 BBY.
Together, those narrow us down to 3,647 - 3,643 BBY for the setting of Fatal Alliance.
BUT . . .
Near the end of the novel, a character refers to the cold war (the period after the Treaty of Coruscant) as having been going on for more than a decade. That would require a time frame of 3,642 BBY or later for the novel.
That makes more sense with the ages of the characters and events in their early lives, I suppose, but it seems to clash with the developers' comments.
I agree that makes more sense Especially considering at the end of the novel there is a section that talks about the sacking of Coruscant and how a tree was planted for every victim and they had by this point grown into a small forest. |
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Re: The Old Republic: Fatal Alliance discussion
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I just finished Fatal Alliance, and man it was awesome! I hope we see more of Shigar. He seemed to be the first Jedi Padawan in a Star Wars novel with a level head right off the bat.
Also, Williams writing was fantastic! He wonderfully showed the audience what was going on even though none of the characters knew the whole picture. He even had characters deduce the wrong conclusions while managing to not confuse the story with false ideas.
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Re: The Old Republic: Fatal Alliance discussion
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From pp. 76 --
A massive Houk approached her. "Your weapon, please."
Ax unhitched her lightsaber, ignited it, and without saying a word removed the Houk's head.
Best part of the entire novel so far. If only the modern Sith were this gruesome and awesome, we wouldn't have them forging alliances with Jedi and acting like idiots. |
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Re: The Old Republic: Fatal Alliance discussion
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New information to put in here chronologically. We have another contradiction.
According to the developers and Leland, the game is set no less than six years but no more than thirty years after the Treaty of Coruscant.
That narrowed us to 3,647 - 3,623 BBY.
Sean Williams has said that the novel is set just before the game itself, and the developers have said that the game starts less than ten years after the Treaty of Coruscant.
That narrows us down to 3,653 - 3,643 BBY.
Together, those narrow us down to 3,647 - 3,643 BBY for the setting of Fatal Alliance.
BUT . . .
Near the end of the novel, a character refers to the cold war (the period after the Treaty of Coruscant) as having been going on for more than a decade. That would require a time frame of 3,642 BBY or later for the novel.
That makes more sense with the ages of the characters and events in their early lives, I suppose, but it seems to clash with the developers' comments.
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Re: The Old Republic: Fatal Alliance discussion
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Hey can you guys go to amazon and ask for this book to be added on the kindle you dont have to be registered just go and click pls then i can read 2
First, that's a new thread, plus a reply to your own thread, plus this post, your ONLY three posts thus far, all on the same topic. That's basically spam. Chill with that and actually engage in discussion, or you'll end up drawing the attention of the moderators as a troll.
However, this raises an interesting point about Fatal Alliance. I collect the SW books (novels, Scholastic series, etc.), so I tend not to often look up which SW novels are available in digital format. However, I tend to buy just about everything else I read in digital format for my Nook (Barnes and Noble's frankly superior answer to the Kindle, feature-wise). I just looked, and, RoF_INferno is correct that this novel is not available in digital format, whereas most recent SW novels have been.
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Re: The Old Republic: Fatal Alliance discussion
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Hey can you guys go to amazon and ask for this book to be added on the kindle you dont have to be registered just go and click pls then i can read 2
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Re: The Old Republic: Fatal Alliance discussion
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No, only one sacking. I can confirm that Fatal Alliance takes place some years afterwards.
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Re: The Old Republic: Fatal Alliance discussion
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No, only one sacking. I can confirm that Fatal Alliance takes place some years afterwards.
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Re: The Old Republic: Fatal Alliance discussion
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I've received word from Leland Chee. While a specific date can't be announced for Fatal Alliance (since they haven't revealed the timelne date for the game, I'd bet), it's definitely NOT in 3,650 BBY. That's a landmark on the timeline. It happens more years after the Treaty of Coruscant than that. How many? We shall see as more is revealed about TOR.
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Re: The Old Republic: Fatal Alliance discussion
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Jul 22, 2010 10:36 PM
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Do we have a date for when Fatal Alliance is set? Sites like Wookieepedia are listing it at 3,650 BBY, which would make the date on the book's timeline a set date for the book rather than just a landmark. However, that date makes no sense in the context of the novel itself, as it obviously, based on only the first 50 pages or so, has to take place longer after the Treaty of Coruscant than just three years. I've emailed Leland on this one, but I'm curious if I've just missed something somewhere, as I'm not very far beyond the character backstories (around p. 50) that blow the date out of the water.
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Re: The Old Republic: Fatal Alliance discussion
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Do we have a date for when Fatal Alliance is set? Sites like Wookieepedia are listing it at 3,650 BBY, which would make the date on the book's timeline a set date for the book rather than just a landmark. However, that date makes no sense in the context of the novel itself, as it obviously, based on only the first 50 pages or so, has to take place longer after the Treaty of Coruscant than just three years. I've emailed Leland on this one, but I'm curious if I've just missed something somewhere, as I'm not very far beyond the character backstories (around p. 50) that blow the date out of the water.
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Re: The Old Republic: Fatal Alliance discussion
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