A lot of people have denoted Dark Empire as not so great. Well the only thing I feel was bad about Dark Empire was bad was Salla Zend and only from her hairstyle. It looked like the last time she'd used a hairbrush was when Han split. Well that was when the 80's became the 90's and people still couldn't figure out how to look good as opposed to making a statement which is never a good thing. What you want is closer to Halle Berry's hair short easy to maintain doesn't drain the water bill at your domicile. Halle Berry gets my vote for Salla Zend

"I can't stand pain. It hurts me."
-Daffy Duck

I have said before some things I will apologize for and some I will not, and that is that. I do believe I can assert I have a better understanding of the Character of Luke Skywalker better than you because he is me. From a Character standpoint in Luke Skywalker I see a mirror image of myself and I can tell you how we work: I will go far and achieve great as did Luke. Farther than even I would believe myself capable of and a gogolplex farther than all who ever said 'you'll never amount to anything ya loser' we "YOU'LL never amount anything, ya jerk! And you'll be stuck as a post hole digger or High School Guidance Counselor but that's a best case scenario!" Not that you said that, vhett but many more have and continue to and they are all wrong. I do have the luxury of having both my parents in my upbringing not my Uncle and Aunt (dad's brother, wife) who are the minions of darkness behind a hooded mask of righteousness. I consider it a much lighter burden to have my parents and instead in the even they die myself and sister will be trusted to my my dad's sister they're much nicer and have a beach house in Oregon. I understand the love of a sister as does Luke, Leia has saved Luke so many times and my sister is the only one who could stop me from committing suicide.

And for the event of Lovers like Luke's yes would indeed be love and plenty of sex, face it! That's what cements the relationship as such and you know and I know they were having sex, you don't look as good as Luke and go all the way to 39 without having sex with Mara. And I can tell you for certain the real reason with Luke going to Tohoshe Station had little to do with "picking up power converters" and more to do with "wasting time with his friends" her name was Camie and they were sexing. The very same happened with Gaeriel Capiston, Jem Ysanna and Callista. At some point someone declared Gaeriel Capiston dead but later not at Truce at Bakura but sometime later, some conflicting reports there apparently but apparent Gaeriel Capiston is Dead. Jem Ysanna: looks more promising and I felt much better for her because she was a Jedi and having known right from the start how important the ability to deflect blaster bolts by Lightsaber would give her more instruction that is the most important thing for a Jedi to learn to deflect blaster bolts by Lightsaber! After that let's see how this pans out a little bit longer if you'd just give it a chance for chrissake, but it won't be a permanent solution I know 'cause brunettes and me don't work. Dooku Lord of the Rings was right in this as well the proper thing to do when a computer s t a r t s h i t t i n g on you take a sledge hammer to the computer regardless of whomever is inside.
"I must release you. WHAM! AAHH!" free prize to anyone who can tell me the reference
As for Tanith Shire I would've put Less demand on my "duties to the Alliance" and more for the hot blonde who really fancies me, SERIOUSLY what was Luke thinking?! Come o-on, hot blo-ond, more im-por-tant that the other thing! Dumbass!


This is different from Love as I said she betrayed Luke she raped Luke very different from love nothing about love all about domination that's what rape is never let anyone tell you different and never let anyone tell you a woman can't rape a man they can especially with Darkside powers.


You mean Shira Brie? She's the type of Redhead that is second rate, Mara Jade is FIRST rate make no mistake about that! If there is anyone I can say YES that's who I would've made him with would be Mara Jade and I know there's plenty of fanboys with me and just as angry that she died. And I was the one to submit Shira Brie on the list of possible homosexuals in the Same Sex Relations In Star Wars thread anyone can look at this list I wish you would all of you should try that for the debacle as I said before.

"I can't stand pain. It hurts me."
-Daffy Duck

Jacen kicking Jaina out of the military happened in Bloodlines (2nd Book).

Yes I think Jacen and Jaina talk in Betrayal, Bloodlines and then finally in Invincible. That's it. Compared to NJO where it was hard to separate the two of them. But then we get Jacen's 5 year journey and all of a sudden he's all secretive and powerful. And the only reason I remember was because he was looking for a way to talk to his brother.

Mind you his actions of kicking her out of Rogue Squadron after she refused to murder a freighter full of civilians just MIGHT have had something to do with it.

thats true, i remember this, but doesnt that scene happen somewhere in the fourth book? If they were ultimately going to be the ones having the showdown in the end, I would think a bit more time should have been spent on their relationship as siblings PRIOR to Jacen's immoral actions forceing their estrangement. I know they didnt really move in the same circles so to speak, but if this was to be jacen's last hurrah I think their relationship should have been given some early focus to give the story more impact in the end. Seems Jaina just jumps to a leading role in the last two books. If I remember right, i think she wasnt even in several of the books at all.

Yes, it took less time than many other characters, but I'd say that he fulfilled his destiny.

Still though, I wonder if anything will ever come of Ikrit's prophesy about "great things happening with Anakin and Tahiri together". What gets me thinking is Anakin Skywalker was born of the force (no father) would it be to much of a stretch for Anakins force ghost to maybe come to her in a dream and plant a seed of a child in Tahiri? Granted that sounds a little strange but in the realm of star wars is it all that far fetched?

Honestly, Anakin never struck me as particularly emotional. Perhaps I just need to re-read NJO...

What I meant by this was that the LOTF was really the story of Jacen's destiny and, while i loved the idea of the twin duel, I think the story would have had more emotional impact with Anakin in it becasue he was Jacen's brother and would not have just let him slip away as easily as I felt the other characters did. I mean, I dont even think Jaina has a decent conversation with Jacen throughout the entire LOTF and no one can agrue that their relationship had been strained nearly to the breaking point a long time before he even became a sith. Anakin always seemed to be the glue that held his family and siblings together and I think that was what was missing from this story. There was obviously room for him, just tear out boba fetts pointless page time (I love Fett, but this wasnt the right place for it). I know its a moot arguement, but Im just saying

Agree about Jacen, but not so much about Jaina, who I've always seen as the real leader of that generation. ("Sword of the Jedi," anyone?)

I think Jaina SHOULD have been developed into more of a leader in the past and was actually VERY excited during destiny's way (i think that was the book) when the whole sword of the jedi prophecy was made. However, after the njo I really hated where they moved her character. Jaina as a killik joiner was one of the worst things in the whole eu for me. Im just glad it ended after the bug trilogy. Also, I got really sick of reading about the love triangle and im glad that seems to be coming to an end. If the end of invicible is an indication though, I think they are finally doing something right with her, she was awesome in that book. As for most of the njo up through the last part of the LOTF though, i dont think she was shown as much of a leader overall.

*Before his death, Jaina was a bratty somewhat second tier character, Jacen was to unsure and contemplative to step up in that way and the rest of the cast hadn't really been written into the forefront enough to naturally step into a leading role. *

Jaina wasn't second tier. If anything she had a larger role than Jacen prior to Traitor. Although I agree, most other characters of the new generation had yet to be developed.

Obviously now Ben and Jaina have to step up to fill the void but I just think story lines like the LOTF would have been much more emotional with Anakin in the mix.

Honestly, Anakin never struck me as particularly emotional. Perhaps I just need to re-read NJO...

You could argue that Vader shouldn't have died because thats who GL's saga was about and with his death there were no stories to tell.

Ironicly, This is actually exactly where GL was coming from. The movies were all basiclly Anakin Skywalkers story and, from what Ive heard, in GL's eyes star wars ends at this point. I dont think it should and im thrilled about the eu as a whole, but thats an arguement for another thread. Also, Vader came full circle: jedi - sith - redemption. In other words he had a complete story. Anakin Solo was cut down before his story should have been complete. Not that he should have ever become a sith, he just should have had a longer story ahead of him. This is why authors like Stackpole felt it was such a waste of character to cut him down so young and I wholeheartedly agree.

Between those two, we've got a huge story potential. Throw in Zekk, Jaden, and Jag, who are all moving onto the main stage as characters with two of them getting their own one-shots. Allana is just a kid now, and has a huge potential. Similarly, Tenel Ka, Tahiri, Lowbacca, and a dozen other younger jedi knights can be included as major characters for the future.

There is no lack of characters who can carry the torch in future EU works.