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Mira Lodo


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Re: The Official Abel G. Peña Thread (Halagad Approved)
Posted: Sep 27, 2009 12:29 PM   in response to: Rainbow Droideka in response to: Rainbow Droideka
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Going from bounty hunter to Rebel to bounty hunter?

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Posted: Sep 27, 2009 9:46 AM   in response to: Mira Lodo in response to: Mira Lodo
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And I don't see the need for a psych ward retcon for Zuckuss, when Jeter did it with a one-liner in the third book, something about being a Rebel not paying.

That was the explanation for his change of situation - the retcon is for his outrageously different personality.
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Posted: Sep 26, 2009 9:35 PM   in response to: Halagad in response to: Halagad
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To have Logray state that someone has plagued them for two hundred snows (presumably years) does not mean that he was personally there for all two hundred of them. Don't you think that word would get around if a pest had hung around for that long? (Incidentally, though, if I recall correctly, the narrator for Caravan of Courage +did +say that Logray was as old as the trees....)

And I don't see the need for a psych ward retcon for Zuckuss, when Jeter did it with a one-liner in the third book, something about being a Rebel not paying.
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Re: The Official Abel G. Peña Thread (Halagad Approved)
Posted: Sep 26, 2009 7:38 PM   in response to: Rainbow Droideka in response to: Rainbow Droideka
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Dewback Rancher:

*Logray himself states 'For two hundred snows you've plagued us', indicate that Logray's absurdly old- probably the oldest Ewok we've heard of.
Or at least, that's the way I always interpreted it. In any case, IS Logray that old? I'm pretty sure an Endor year isn't the same as a Coruscant one, but STILL- can Ewoks even LIVE that long?
Been trying to get confirmation either way, for benefit of Logray's Wookieepedia article, so thanks for taking the time to listen!*

Two hundred snows seems pretty darn long. I really can't give a definitive answer regarding Logray's age. The only thing I can say is that the Ultimate Alien Anthology states that 60+ standard years of age is considered "venerable" for the average Ewok, beyond even the typical "old" age bracket. That doesn't preclude Logray from being extremely venerable, especially given his apparent connection to the Force/magic, but it does at least contextualize the viability of any theories regarding his potential age.

For the record, much like Zuckuss, continuity has made Logray a rather interesting character. While he appears as the kind wiseman archetype in the Ewoks cartoon, the portrait and fate of the character per the Movie Trilogy Sourcebook is far less kind, suggesting a cruel and out of touch shaman that finally gets his. It seems that after defeating his nemesis Morag, Logray himself became more and more like the witch -- an interesting evolution.

Trak Nar:

*While paging through the Essential Guide to Alien Species and Scum and Villainy, I wondered something concerning Zuckuss's mental illness retcon...

How did he end up in the psych ward? What did he do to get committed? Will that ever be explained? He's branded as being dangerous to himself and others, so that implies that he had acted out violently to require psychiatric hospitalization.

It would certainly make for an interesting short story, if anything... *

I agree. Zuckuss' split-personality was a dramatic, if arguably necessary, retcon, given the deep disparity in depictions of the character between Tales of the Bounty Hunters and the Bounty Hunter Wars. I have no knowledge of someone running with that story seed, but if someone did, I'd be very interested in reading it.

Rainbow Droideka:

I wouldn't put it past Daniel Wallace.....

::shakes fist:: Ooh, that Dan Wallace! He thinks he's so cool!!! :)

Abel
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Re: The Official Abel G. Peña Thread (Halagad Approved)
Posted: Sep 26, 2009 7:37 PM   in response to: Halagad in response to: Halagad
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Folks,

Thank you for the kind words on the new website. The overhaul was done by talented web designer Arthur Papadam, a.k.a. Arf Maul on the message boards here.

disturbing:

Then pretend I'm Corellian. ;)

You're braver than I thought.

Jedi Kasra:

I have a question, you wrote the entry on Darth Bandon in the KotOR campaign guide. It says that he built a lightsaber resembling Exar Kun's. Does this mean that it operated similar to Kun's, in that it was a normal-sized hilt, and that Bandon could operate it as a single or a double-bladed lightsaber? If so, I guess this would explain why the image of Bandon and Juhani dueling depicts him with a single-blade, and why Bandon's miniature depicts him with a single blade in the Star Wars Miniatures: Jedi Academy sets. (Although Bandon's figure is merely listed as "Sith Apprentice".)

Jedi Kasra, when I wrote that bit about resembling Exar Kun's lightsaber, I didn't know what these artists were going to do in their depictions of Darth Bandon. That said, I think your interpretation of the KOTOR campaign guide text is valid. However, it's arguably just as likely that Bandon's double-bladed lightsaber was just two interlocking single lightsabers (like Asajj Ventress) and is merely using one of those lightsabers (for whatever reason) in the aforementioned illustrations.
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Posted: Sep 7, 2009 5:58 AM   in response to: Trak Nar in response to: Trak Nar
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Honestly, I think the chances of those droids getting drudged up from continuity limbo would be approximately 3720 to 1.

I wouldn't put it past Daniel Wallace.....
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Posted: Sep 6, 2009 8:45 PM   in response to: Dewback Rancher in response to: Dewback Rancher
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Very very nice design. Compact, organized, eye-catching, yet not cluttered. A nice balance between eye-candy and simple functionality. And the postal theme is well done.

Anywho, it's stupid question time!

While paging through the Essential Guide to Alien Species and Scum and Villainy, I wondered something concerning Zuckuss's mental illness retcon...

How did he end up in the psych ward? What did he do to get committed? Will that ever be explained? He's branded as being dangerous to himself and others, so that implies that he had acted out violently to require psychiatric hospitalization.

It would certainly make for an interesting short story, if anything...
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Posted: Sep 3, 2009 11:13 AM   in response to: Halagad in response to: Halagad
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In the Ewoks cartoon, things like Logray being the Ewok brave who confronted Morag when she made her grab at the Sunstar-Shadowstone (I mean, the episode The Cries Of the Trees states that he was the only opposition she found, so I find it unlikely she made her move, found no opposition, then went, 'Oh, no one's going to fight me... better come back later when they're more prepared'), and the fact that Logray himself states 'For two hundred snows you've plagued us', indicate that Logray's absurdly old- probably the oldest Ewok we've heard of.
Or at least, that's the way I always interpreted it. In any case, IS Logray that old? I'm pretty sure an Endor year isn't the same as a Coruscant one, but STILL- can Ewoks even LIVE that long?
Been trying to get confirmation either way, for benefit of Logray's Wookieepedia article, so thanks for taking the time to listen!
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Posted: Sep 1, 2009 10:28 AM   in response to: Halagad in response to: Halagad
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The new look of your site is cool, Mr. Pena. I have a question, you wrote the entry on Darth Bandon in the KotOR campaign guide. It says that he built a lightsaber resembling Exar Kun's. Does this mean that it operated similar to Kun's, in that it was a normal-sized hilt, and that Bandon could operate it as a single or a double-bladed lightsaber? If so, I guess this would explain why the image of Bandon and Juhani dueling depicts him with a single-blade, and why Bandon's miniature depicts him with a single blade in the Star Wars Miniatures: Jedi Academy sets. (Although Bandon's figure is merely listed as "Sith Apprentice".) Thank you for your time, Mr. Pena.
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Posted: Jun 18, 2009 5:58 PM   in response to: Halagad in response to: Halagad
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Unfortunately, no. Honestly, I think the chances of
those droids getting drudged up from continuity limbo
would be approximately 3720 to 1.

Then pretend I'm Corellian. ;)

Like the new look!
Halagad


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Re: The Official Abel G. Peña Thread (Halagad Approved)
Posted: Jun 16, 2009 1:59 PM   in response to: Halagad in response to: Halagad
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Howdy folks!

Well, my website has finally gotten its long-overdue facelift. Check out the sexier site at the same good old place: www.abelgpena.com

... or at www.philodoxer.com.

Many thanks,
Abel
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Posted: May 28, 2009 3:32 PM   in response to: Mira Lodo in response to: Mira Lodo
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droidsandewoks:

Do you have any idea as to the designation of these two particular droids, or if there has ever been anything in the works towards identifying the various makes of droids in this show?

Unfortunately, no. Honestly, I think the chances of those droids getting drudged up from continuity limbo would be approximately 3720 to 1.

Mira Lodo:

Yeah. Stuff like that, I consider WEG simply overreaching their boundaries. The films should always be unrestrained by those things, as they were designed for gamers, not for writers. Simply because we don't see something on-screen doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

I like to think of it as a different time. Star Wars animation and comics have come a long way in terms of respectability since the 80s.

Abel
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Posted: May 19, 2009 4:16 PM   in response to: Halagad in response to: Halagad
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  • Yeah, I'm aware of all those tricky continuity bits.
The worst was the A-wing existing so long before the
original trilogy, though that glitch was more a
product of West End Games doing their thing. *

Yeah. Stuff like that, I consider WEG simply overreaching their boundaries. The films should always be unrestrained by those things, as they were designed for gamers, not for writers. Simply because we don't see something on-screen doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

*Of
course, if you can explain that away, these other
issues aren't that threatening. It probably would
make sense to place the Droids series further up in
the timeline, but you'd have to ask Leland Chee about
that in the VIP thread for a more definitive answer.*

Getting a hold of Leland for continuity questions seems to be a bit difficult these days. :p Thanks for addressing the question; I'm glad I'm not the only one to whom this solution makes more sense.

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Posted: May 19, 2009 1:44 PM   in response to: Halagad in response to: Halagad
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Hi there! As it stands right now, many of the droids from the Droids special The Great Heep are still unidentified. It's too bad that some of these unidentified astromech models have not shown up in any other media. There were some cool designs in that show! Of particular interest to me are the spherical astromech droid and the gray and purple astromech who is labeled here: http://droidsandewoks.weebly.com/droids-tv-characters.html< /a> as Astromech Droid (Unknown Model).
Do you have any idea as to the designation of these two particular droids, or if there has ever been anything in the works towards identifying the various makes of droids in this show?
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Posted: May 18, 2009 11:16 PM   in response to: Mira Lodo in response to: Mira Lodo
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Yeah, I'm aware of all those tricky continuity bits. The worst was the A-wing existing so long before the original trilogy, though that glitch was more a product of West End Games doing their thing. Of course, if you can explain that away, these other issues aren't that threatening. It probably would make sense to place the Droids series further up in the timeline, but you'd have to ask Leland Chee about that in the VIP thread for a more definitive answer.

Take care,
Abel
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Posted: May 9, 2009 10:24 PM   in response to: Halagad in response to: Halagad
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Well, Abel, since you're here, allow me to ask this, as it's been on my mind since the latest timeline revisions:

Why are the Droids series now set at 15 BBY? I know I remember hearing something about the original intent being that they were in the early days of the Empire, which fits, but there are also references to the Rebel Alliance, Boba Fett is full grown and well-established, IG-88 is in action as a bounty hunter ... wouldn't it make more sense to put this series a couple of years BBY (especially since the droids appear to have their first encounter with IG-88 in the DH comics, set at 3 BBY)?

Just a thought.
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Posted: May 9, 2009 2:02 PM   in response to: Jedi Kasra in response to: Jedi Kasra
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droidsandewoks:

Nice work on the 'Star Wars Droids: The Adventures of R2-D2 and C-3PO' article! I know it was a few years ago, but it's nice to see characters from that series get some attention.

That's an older code, but it checks out. My co-author Rich Handley and I had actually written a much longer article on the Droids cartoon covering the complete television run. Only the first part was published, however.

Thanks for bringing back Reddjak from the Droids comic series too! Do you have any more Droids related work coming up?

Reddjak's inclusion in Echoes of the Jedi was serendipitous. There are so many established pirate characters in the Expanded Universe that haven't had much screen time over the years. Hooking him up with the Red Fury Brotherhood seemed like a natural fit. Of course, I considered Crimson Jack from the Marvel comics too, but I figured if I take the opportunity to use Reddjak, we'd almost certainly never hear from him again.

I have another small nod to the Droids cartoon in the works.

Jedi Kasra:

Hey, Mr. Pena. I was just wondering, in the KotOR campaign guide there's a picture of Darth Bandon dueling the Cathar Jedi Juhani. Does this mean that Juhani was with Revan when Bandon confronted him, or that it happened some other time before the Sith confronted Revan?

I'd say it's up in the air at the moment.

Abel
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Posted: May 8, 2009 7:19 AM   in response to: Halagad in response to: Halagad
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Hey, Mr. Pena. I was just wondering, in the KotOR campaign guide there's a picture of Darth Bandon dueling the Cathar Jedi Juhani. Does this mean that Juhani was with Revan when Bandon confronted him, or that it happened some other time before the Sith confronted Revan?
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Posted: May 4, 2009 9:34 AM   in response to: Halagad in response to: Halagad
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Abel,
Nice work on the 'Star Wars Droids: The Adventures of R2-D2 and C-3PO' article! I know it was a few years ago, but it's nice to see characters from that series get some attention. Thanks for bringing back Reddjak from the Droids comic series too! Do you have any more Droids related work coming up?
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Posted: Apr 2, 2009 1:40 PM   in response to: Supporter of Em... in response to: Supporter of Em...
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Supporter of Emperor Jag:

Fair enough. Nice way to tie in the product placement. ;)

Smooth, right? I owe it to my bible, How to Succeed in Everything.

It doesn't matter because we won't be seeing them again, but the idea of a sentient species extinction happening off-screen had troubled me for years. As a firm believer in "if you didn't see him die, he didn't," (see Alema Rar etc.) it always left me suspicious.

The Yevetha were a uniquely compelling species in Star Wars, and that was my biggest regret in their coming to an end "off screen." It's a long shot, but maybe with Dark Horse's newly announced Invasion series, we'll get to see the showdown between the Yuuzhan Vong and Yevetha.

Take care,
Abel

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